Concealed handgun permits; recognition of out-of-state permits. (HB1732)

Introduced By

Sen. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson)

Progress

Introduced
Passed Committee
Passed House
Passed Senate
Signed by Governor
Became Law

Description

Concealed handgun permits; recognition of out-of-state permits.  Allows any person who is at least 21 years of age with a valid concealed handgun or concealed weapons permit issued by another state to carry a concealed handgun within the Commonwealth, so long as he also carries a valid government-issued photo identification. Read the Bill »

Outcome

Bill Has Failed

History

DateAction
01/10/2011Committee
01/10/2011Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/12/11 11101057D
01/10/2011Referred to Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety
01/31/2011Assigned MPPS sub: #1
02/03/2011Subcommittee recommends striking from docket (5-Y 0-N)
02/08/2011Left in Militia, Police and Public Safety

Comments

robert legge writes:

AZ now says no permit needed. Virtually anyone can carry concealed weapons. VT and AK too.

Waldo Jaquith writes:

Note that Virginia already has reciprocity agreements with Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska , New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming. These states have been selected because their licensure requirements are at least as strict as our own.

What Del. Carrico's proposal would do is make Virginia's concealed carry regulations on par with the weakest regulations anywhere in the nation. This is a back-door method of weakening the very laws that we just shored up after the Virginia Tech massacre. If Del. Carrico would like to see reduced requirements to carry a concealed weapon, he should seek the modify the law, rather than accomplishing it in this round-about way.

Dave Briggman writes:

Waldo, many of the state you've listed are only INFORMAL agreements with those states to recognize each other's permits.

As such, I'd not be willing to stake my permit on any government's "informal" agreement when I can get a Florida permit which has true reciprocity with about 32 states for their non-resident permit.

Waldo Jaquith writes:

I provided a link for that very reason, but I'm happy to list all of the formal agreements here. We have formal reciprocity agreements with Alaska, Florida, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and West Virginia.

Brad M. writes:

Is there (should there be) a quid pro quo that would attain reciprocity for a Virginia permit in every other state? Do VA police agencies have an "instant check" database that would verify the validity of permits from ALL other states? (I don't know what an Oregon permit looks like, but I have no doubt I could make a counterfeit one that would look quite official.) It is reassuring that VA is increasing the likelihood that the next Seung-Hui Cho will contend with a little immediate and righteous return fire.

George writes:

Robert legge writes: Virtually anyone can carry concealed weapons. VT and AK too.

No Robert, not virtually anyone. Just law abiding, clean record citizens.

That is a huge difference.

Maybe your spin works in certain circles - won't work here.