Concealed handgun permits; fees. (SB677)

Introduced By

Sen. Amanda Chase (R-Midlothian) with support from co-patrons Del. Tom Garrett (R-Louisa), and Sen. David Suetterlein (R-Salem)

Progress

Introduced
Passed Committee
Passed House
Passed Senate
Signed by Governor
Became Law

Description

Fees for concealed handgun permits. Makes the $10 fee that the clerk of court is now required to charge for processing a concealed handgun permit application or issuing a concealed handgun permit discretionary with the clerk. Read the Bill »

Outcome

Bill Has Failed

History

DateAction
01/20/2016Presented and ordered printed 16103871D
01/20/2016Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
01/27/2016Reported from Courts of Justice (14-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
01/27/2016Rereferred to Finance
02/08/2016Impact statement from DPB (SB677)
02/10/2016Reported from Finance (10-Y 5-N) (see vote tally)
02/11/2016Constitutional reading dispensed (40-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
02/12/2016Read second time and engrossed
02/12/2016Constitutional reading dispensed (39-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
02/12/2016Passed by for the day
02/15/2016Passed by temporarily
02/15/2016Read third time and passed Senate (32-Y 8-N) (see vote tally)
02/17/2016Placed on Calendar
02/17/2016Read first time
02/17/2016Referred to Committee on Appropriations
02/22/2016Assigned App. sub: General Government & Capital Outlay
02/29/2016Subcommittee recommends laying on the table
03/08/2016Left in Appropriations

Video

This bill was discussed on the floor of the General Assembly. Below is all of the video that we have of that discussion, 4 clips in all, totaling 10 minutes.

Transcript

This is a transcript of the video clips in which this bill is discussed.



Sen. Mark Obenshain (R-Harrisonburg): LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF THE LIEN AND WITH RESPECT TO LAND OWNERS, OWNERS THERE IS NO LIMIT. LIMIT IS THE AMOUNT OF UNPAID SEWER BILLS. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS PASS.

[Unknown]: MR. PRESIDENT. THE SENATOR FROM ROANOKE CITY. MAY THIS GO BYE FOR THE DAY.


Sen. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson): DYING ON THE VINE AND I HOPE IT WOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF THIS BODY TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. THE QUESTION IS SHALL SENATE BILL 44 PASS. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WILLE S AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO. ARE THE SENATORS READY TO VOTE? HAVE ALL THE SENATORS VOTED? DO ANY SENATORS DESIRE TO CH ANGE THEIR VOTE? THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLL.

[Unknown]: AYES 33, NOS 7.

Sen. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson): AYES 33, NOS 7. THE BILL PASSES. MOVING FORWARD TO PAGE 5. SENATE BILL 677. THE SENATOR FROM CHESTERFIELD, SENATOR CHASE.

Sen. Amanda Chase (R-Midlothian): MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BILL PASS AND SPEAKING TO THE BILL.

[Unknown]: THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR.

Sen. Amanda Chase (R-Midlothian): MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE BILL THAT ONLY CHANGES ONE WORD. IT CHANGES A SHALL TO A MAY. IT ALLOWS LOCALITIES TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL CHARGE A PROCESSING FEE FOR ISSUING A CONCEALED HANDGUN PERMIT. A LOCALITY IS SEEKING FLEXIBILITY TO WHETHER THEY WILL DECIDE TO CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL FEE. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY A FEE FOR WHAT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT. THIS BILL ALLOWS IT MAKES IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BY REDUCING THE COST OF OWNING A GUN. I HOPE IT WILL BE THE PLEASURE OF THE BODY TO PASS THIS BILL.

[Unknown]: THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM, SENATOR GARRETT.

Del. Tom Garrett (R-Louisa): MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD THE PATRON YIELD FOR A YES?

[Unknown]: WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A QUESTION.

Del. Tom Garrett (R-Louisa): I YIELD.

[Unknown]: I WOULD ASK IF SHE IS AWARE ON LINE 48 IT REFERS SPECIFICALLY TO SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED IN THE NCIS. THE SENATOR FROM CHESTERFIELD. WOULD THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM PLEASE REPEAT THE REQUEST HE. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK THE PATRON IF SHE IS AWARE IN THE BILL ON LINE 48 IT REFERS TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO SEVENNED IN THE NCIS. THE SENATOR FROM CHESTERFIELD. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. I RETIRED. MR. PRESIDENT,. THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM. AND SO I WOULD PRESUME THEN THAT THE PATRON IS FAMILIAR WITH JAMES TODD SMITH A.K.A. SAM HANNAH, A.K.A.L.L. COOL J WHO HAS STARRED IN THE PROGRAM NCIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, MR. PRESIDENT. WOULD SHE BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL? THE SENATOR FROM CHESTER FIELD. MR. PRESIDENT, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL. THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM. YES, SIR. MR. PRESIDENT. LET ME TRY OTHER ANGLE. I FEEL LIKE THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM HENRICO MUST HAVE FELT YESTERDAY. PERHAPS THE PATRON IS FAMILIAR WITH LINE I BELIEVE 47 WHERE IF REFERS TO THE UNITED STATES MARSHALL SERVICE. FAMILIAR WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT? THE SENATOR FROM CHESTER I WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH FIELD. THAT. WOULD THE PATRON YIELD FOR ANOTHER QUESTION? SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE YIELDING TO THE SENATOR? NO, I WOULD NOT, THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. WHILE THE PATRON MAY BE THE ONLY PERSON NOT FAMILIAR WITH L. L. COOL J AND NCIS I PRESUME SHE IS FAMILIAR WITH TOMMY LEE JONES FROM THE 1993 FILM THE FUGITIVE AND I'M CURIOUS WHETHER THIS BILL WOULD COVER HIM? SECONDLY IT IS POSSIBLE THE UP A ARMED MAN DID KILL DR. RICHARD KIMBALL'S WIFE AND THIS DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT IN THE SLIGHTEST. IN LINE 46 IT REFERS TO SOMEONE WHO SERVE THE IN THE BATF. AS THE HOMELAND SECURITY ACT OF 2002 THE ATF WAS MOVED FROM TREASURY TO JUSTICE ON JANUARY 24 2003 BECAME THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES, THEREFORE, WOULD THE PATRON YIELD FOR A QUESTION, I WOULD ASK IF THIS ONLY APPLIES TO INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVED IN THE DEPARTMENT FORMERLY KNOWN AS ATF AND NOT THOSE THAT CURRENTLY WITH THESE SORT OF AMBIGUITIES I SERVE. DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN GET BEHIND THE BILL OF MY COPATRON. I WOULD LIKE TO ARGUE THAT THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM HAS TOO MUCH TIME TO WATCH TV AND IF HE WERE A BUSY OF FOUR TEENAGED KIDS HE WOULD NOT HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. I MOVE THAT THE ABOUT I WILL PASS. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM FRANKLIN, SENATOR STANLEY.

Sen. Bill Stanley (R-Moneta): THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WILL THE SENATOR RISE FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

[Unknown]: THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A COUPLE OF YESES.

Sen. Bill Stanley (R-Moneta): HEY, I RISE.

[Unknown]: I WOULD ASK THE GENTLE LADY TO REFER TO HER OWN BILL ON LINE 22 OF THAT BILL AFTER THE WORD PENALTIES CAN SHE TELL ME THE VERY NEXT WORD AFTER PENALTIES AND BEFORE PAYMENT. THE SENATOR FROM CHESTERFIELD. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WORD WOULD BE NO. MR. PRESIDENT, WILL SHE I WOULD ASK THE GENTLE LADY TO YIELD? LOOK AT LINE 24 AFTER THE EFFECTIVE UNTIL JULY 1, 2018 AFTER PA REN THAT CEASE AND BEFORE FEES. THAT WORD WOULD BE NO. THANK YOU, THE SENATOR. AND FINAL YES WOULD SHE YIELD FOR. SHE YIELDS, SENATOR. I WOULD ASK THE GENTLE LADY TO LOOK AT LINE 40 ON SUB SECTION B. AFTER 2018 AND THE CLOSED PARENS WHAT WORD IS THAT FOUND IN HER BILL. THE SENATOR FROM THE CHESTER THE WORD IS NO ON LINE 40. FIELD. SPEAK TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. NO, NO, NO. I THINK IT SUMS UP THIS BILL EXACTLY AND THE PATRON, NO, NO, NO. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM RUSSELL COUNTY, SENATOR CHAFIN.

Sen. Ben Chafin (R-Lebanon): MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD THE GENTLE LADY FROM CHESTERFIELD YIELD FOR A QUESTION.

[Unknown]: WOULD THE SENATOR FROM THE CHESTERFIELD YIELD FOR A QUESTION?

Sen. Ben Chafin (R-Lebanon): IS THIS BILL THAT YOU HAVE

[Unknown]: I YIELD. CREATING THE LENIENCY TOWARD PEOPLE APPLYING FOR A GUN PERMIT. APPLICANTS. WOULD THAT NOT RESULT IN A LOSS OF FEES AND IN FACT LOSS OF INCOME FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE? MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION THIS IS GIVING FLEXIBILITY TO THE LOCALITIES TO MAKE THE DECISION. IT IS NOT AND UNFUNDED MANDATE. IT AS CHOICE OR DECISION TO BE MADE BY THE LOCALITY WHETHER OR NOT TO PAY THAT FEE OR NOT. THE NO ARE FROM RUSSELL. WOULD THE GENTLE LADY YIELD FOR ANOTHER QUESTION. WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR ANOTHER AQUESTION? YES. SHE YIELDS NOR. WOULD THIS NOT IN FACT LEAD TO A LOSS OF JOBS AND PERHAPS JOBS IN SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AS HE WELL AS OTHER PLACES? THE SENATOR FROM CHESTER FIELD. I WOULD TELL THE GENTLEMAN THIS WOULD NOT LEAD TO JOB REDICTIONS OR A LOSS OF JOBS. IF ANYTHING IT WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE INDIVIDUALS IN HIS DISTRICT WOULD HAVE IN THEIR POCKET BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE PAYING AS MANY FEES. THE SENATOR FROM RICE SELL. MR. PRESIDENT, SPEAKING TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. I'M CONCERNED THIS IS YET ANOTHER JOB KILLING BILL AND AS SUCH I'M CONCERNED THAT THE PASS AND COULD LEAD TO MASS JOB LOSS THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH AND I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF THIS BODY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU CAST YOUR VOTE EITHER RED OR GREEN. THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON, SENATOR CARRICO.

Sen. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson): WOULD THE GENTLE LADY YIELD.

[Unknown]: WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A QUESTION.

Sen. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson): YES, MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD.

[Unknown]: SHE YIELDS, SENATOR. DOES THE GENTLE LADY REALIZE WHAT TOMORROW IS? THE SENATOR FROM CHESTER FIELD. TOMORROW IS TUESDAY, MR. PRESIDENT,. THANK YOU, SENATOR GRAYSON. THAT IS CALLED CROSSOVER. DOES THE GENTLE LADY REALIZE THAT TOMORROW IS CROSSOVER. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, I REALIZE THAT TOMORROW IS CROSSOVER. AND DOES THE GENTLE LADY REALIZE THAT SHE IS JUST NOW GETTING HER FIRST BILL EVEN AFTER SENATOR McMcPIKE HAS GOT ONE OUT OF HERE. I WOULD ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THE SENATOR. I CHOSE TO KEEPIFY MOUTH QUIET AND MY FIRST BILL WENT BY ON THE UNCONTESTED CALENDAR. THANK YOU, SENATOR. SENATOR.