Education, Board of; policy on sexually explicit instructional material. (HB516)

Introduced By

Del. Steve Landes (R-Weyers Cave) with support from co-patron Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg)

Progress

Introduced
Passed Committee
Passed House
Passed Senate
Signed by Governor
Became Law

Description

Board of Education; policy on sexually explicit instructional material. Requires the Board of Education to establish a policy to require each public elementary or secondary school to (i) notify the parent of any student whose teacher reasonably expects to provide instructional material that includes sexually explicit content, (ii) permit the parent of any student to review instructional material that includes sexually explicit content upon request, and (iii) provide, as an alternative to instructional material and related academic activities that include sexually explicit content, nonexplicit instructional material and related academic activities to any student whose parent so requests. Read the Bill »

Status

04/04/2016: vetoed by governor

History

  • 01/09/2016 Committee
  • 01/09/2016 Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/13/16 16101171D
  • 01/09/2016 Referred to Committee on Education
  • 01/15/2016 Assigned to sub: Subcommittee Elementary and Secondary Education
  • 01/15/2016 Assigned Education sub: Subcommittee Elementary and Secondary Education
  • 01/15/2016 Assigned Education sub:
  • 01/27/2016 Subcommittee recommends reporting (9-Y 0-N)
  • 01/28/2016 Impact statement from DOE/COO (HB516)
  • 02/01/2016 Reported from Education (22-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
  • 02/02/2016 Read first time
  • 02/03/2016 Read second time and engrossed
  • 02/04/2016 Read third time and passed House BLOCK VOTE (98-Y 0-N)
  • 02/04/2016 VOTE: BLOCK VOTE PASSAGE (98-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
  • 02/05/2016 Constitutional reading dispensed
  • 02/05/2016 Referred to Committee on Education and Health
  • 02/10/2016 Assigned Education sub: Public Education
  • 02/15/2016 Assigned Education sub: Public Education
  • 02/25/2016 Reported from Education and Health with amendment (9-Y 6-N) (see vote tally)
  • 02/26/2016 Constitutional reading dispensed (39-Y 0-N) (see vote tally)
  • 02/29/2016 Read third time
  • 02/29/2016 Passed by for the day
  • 03/01/2016 Read third time
  • 03/01/2016 Reading of amendment waived
  • 03/01/2016 Committee amendment agreed to
  • 03/01/2016 Engrossed by Senate as amended
  • 03/01/2016 Passed Senate with amendment (22-Y 17-N) (see vote tally)
  • 03/02/2016 Placed on Calendar
  • 03/03/2016 Pending question ordered
  • 03/03/2016 Senate amendment agreed to by House (76-Y 21-N)
  • 03/03/2016 VOTE: ADOPTION (76-Y 21-N) (see vote tally)
  • 03/03/2016 Reconsideration of Senate amendment agreed to by House
  • 03/03/2016 Senate amendment agreed to by House (77-Y 21-N)
  • 03/03/2016 VOTE: ADOPTION #2 (77-Y 21-N) (see vote tally)
  • 03/07/2016 Enrolled
  • 03/07/2016 Bill text as passed House and Senate (HB516ER)
  • 03/07/2016 Impact statement from DPB (HB516ER)
  • 03/07/2016 Signed by Speaker
  • 03/09/2016 G Governor's Action Deadline Midnight, Monday, April 11, 2016
  • 03/09/2016 Signed by President
  • 03/09/2016 Enrolled Bill communicated to Governor on 3/9/2016
  • 03/09/2016 G Governor's Action Deadline Midnight, Sunday, April 10, 2016
  • 04/04/2016 G Vetoed by Governor
  • 04/20/2016 Placed on Calendar
  • 04/20/2016 House sustained Governor's veto (66-Y 34-N)
  • 04/20/2016 VOTE: OVERRIDE GOVERNOR'S VETO (66-Y 34-N)
  • 04/20/2016 Requires 67 afirmative votes to override Governor's veto

Video

This bill was discussed on the floor of the General Assembly. Below is all of the video that we have of that discussion, 4 clips in all, totaling 1 hour.

Transcript

This is a transcript of the video clips in which this bill is discussed.

AYES 24, NOS 14. AYES 24, NOS 14. THE BILL PASSES. HOUSE BILL 516, A BILL RELATING TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION POLICY ON SEXUALLY EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL. REPORTED FROM THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND HEALTH WITH AMENDMENT. THE SENATOR FROM LYNCHBURG, SENATOR NEWMAN. MR. PRESIDENT, AT THE REQUEST OF THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BILL GO BYE FOR THE DAY. WITH THAT OBJECTION, HOUSE BILL 516 WILL GO BYE FOR THE DAY. HOUSE BILL 518, A BILL
EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL. REPORTED FROM COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND HEALTH WITH AMENDMENT. THE SENATOR FROM LYNCHBURG, SENATOR NAUM. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BILL PASS AND SPEAKING TO THAT MOTION. SENATOR, YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT THERE WE NEED TO PASS FIRST. MR. PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE. I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT BE AGREED TO. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE QUESTION IS SHALL THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT BE AGREED TO. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WILL SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE SENATOR FROM LYNCHBURG. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BILL PASS AND SPEAKING TO THAT MOTION. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. MR. PRESIDENT, HOUSE BILL 516 IS A BILL THAT REQUIRES THAT THE BOARD ESTABLISH A FOIL AS RELATES TO -- POLICY AS RELATES TO PUBLIC EDUCATION IN REGARDS TO SEXUALLY EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS BILL IS ABOUT A QUARTER PAGE LONG AND IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THE WORDS THERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. FIRST, THE BILL DOES REQUIRE IN THE FIRST SECTION THAT A PARENT BE NOTIFIED IF THERE IS A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THIS MATERIAL IS BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE STUDENT. NEXT, ON PAGE -- EXCUSE ME, LINE 19, IT IS THE SECOND PORTION WHICH SIMPLY SAYS THAT A PARENT IS ALLOWED TO VIEW THE MATERIAL. THE LAST IS THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, THAT A PARENT CAN BE GIVEN ALTERNATIVE INSTRUCTIONAL MR. PRESIDENT, AS YOU'LL NOTE IN INFORMATION. THE CALENDAR ALSO, WE DID PUT AN AMENDMENT ON THE BILL. THE AMENDMENT SAYS THAT THE MATERIAL WILL BE DEEMED TO BE IN THIS CATEGORY IF DETERMINED BY THE BOARD. MR. PRESIDENT, I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD PASS THIS BILL. HOPEFULLY WE SEE THIS BILL AS A NOTIFICATION, REVIEW, AND ALTERNATIVE BILL, AND NOT ANYTHING BEYOND THAT. I HOPE THAT WELD SUPPORT THE PASSAGE OF THE -- WE WOULD SUPPORT THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM ALEXANDRIA, SENATOR EBBIN. SPEAKING AGAINST THE BILL, SIR. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. I WANTED TO JUST DISCUSS BRIEFLY THREE THINGS ABOUT THE BILL. ONE IS THE NEED OR LACK OF NEED FOR THIS BILL. TWO IS THE CONSTITUTIONALITY AND THREE IS WHAT THE ROAD TO CENSORSHIP LOOKS LIKE. FAIRFAX COUNTY, WHICH IS WHERE I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BILL ORIGINATED FROM, ADOPTED A PROCESS FOR SCHOOLS, BIT SCHOOL BOARD, OVER A YEAR AGO AND THEY DID THAT ON THEIR OWN, SO THIS BILL IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT THERE. ARLINGTON DOES HAVE A REVIEW PROCESS FOR PARENTS TO INSPECT ANY SORT OF INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO I WAS ABLE TO CHECK WITH THIS MORNING, BUT IN TERMS OF THE KOORGET, ARTICLE 8, SECTION 7 OF THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR THAT THE SUPERVISION OF EACH SCHOOL DIVISION SHALL BE VESTED IN LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS AND THE BOARD SHALL WILL PRIMARY AUTHORITY FOR EFFECTUATING THE EDUCATIONAL POLICY SET FORTH IN THE ARTICLE AND IN A CASE IN 1978, SCHOOL BOARD VERSUS PARHAM, IT EXPLICITLY TALKED ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF LOCAL TEACH STAFF AND LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS AND PARTICULARLY THE DAILY MANAGEMENT, AND THIS BILL I DID VESTS THE SCHOOL BOARD -- DIVESTS THE SCHOOL BOARD OF ITS FUNCTION OF DAILY MANAGEMENT AND AT LEAST IN THE SCHOOLS I COULD FIND, IT WASN'T NECESSARY. FINALLY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD TO CENSORSHIP. HERE ARE SOME OF THE GREAT WORKS THAT HAVE BEEN CENSORED IN THE FAST OR REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION BY STUDENTS. CATCHER IN THE RYE, THE GRAPES OF WRATH, THE GREAT GATSBY CHALLENGED TO ITS APPROPRIATENESS IN A COLLEGE LEVEL DUE TO LANGUAGE, SCARLET LETTER, CALL PORNOGRAPHIC AND OBSCENE, AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT BOOKS PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR LANGUAGE, THEMES OF COMING OF AGE, PERSONAL RESILIENCY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF FAMILY DURING TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS. THESE BOOKS, THE LURE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AND ITS EVER CHANGING DEFINITION, SLAVERY THROUGH THE EYES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS, AND TO SIMPLIFY THESE LITERARY CLASSICS INTO SPECIFIC ENUMERATIONS OF SEXUALLY EXPLICIT CONTENT WITHOUT CONTEXTUALIZING OR DISCUSSING THEM IN THEIR TOTALITY ROBS THE STUDENTS OF DRAMATIC RICHNESS AND HISTORIC CONTEXT. LITERATURE IS A VEHICLE THAT EVOKES UNDERSTANDING AND DISCUSSION, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING THIS FIRST STEP TOWARDS ENCOURAGING CENSORSHIP. SCHOOLS CAN ALREADY DO THIS. SCHOOLS THAT MADE COMPLAINTS ALREADY ARE DOING THIS, BUT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER CENSORING. PARENTS HAVE LATITUDE NOW TO ACCESS THESE BOOKS AND I THINK IT'S THE WRONG PATH. I ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THE ABOUT I WILL. THE SENATOR FROM NORTHERN FAIRFAX, SENATOR HOWELL. SPEAKING AGAINST THE BILL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. YOU KNOW, IN MANY WAYS, THIS SESSION HAS BEEN AN EFFORT BY THE COMMONWEALTH TO REPOSITION OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE, AND TO DO THAT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE SPENT HOURS ON BILLS FORWARDING OUR MESSAGE THAT WE ARE A FORWARD-LOOKING COMMONWEALTH WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND DO BUSINESS AND CREATE BUSINESSES. WE ARE SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR BUDGET TO POSITION OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE, AND I WAS ASKING MYSELF, WHAT COULD WE DO THAT WOULD TOTALLY UNDERMINE THESE EFFORTS? AND THIS BILL IS IT. THIS BILL IS IT. THIS SHOWS US TO BE SMALL-MINDED. WE WOULD BE THE FIRST AND ONLY STATE TO HAVE A POLICY LIKE THIS ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LIBRARIANS. AND WHEN WE ASK, WHAT BOOKS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TOLD TONY MORRISON'S BOOKS. TONY MORRISON'S BELOVED, STONY MORRISON'S BLUE SKIES. TONY MORRISON HAS WON THE NATIONAL BOOK AWARD, THE PULITZER PRIZE, AND SHE'S THE LAST AMERICAN AUTHOR TO WIN THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR LITERATURE. SO LET'S JUST MAKE OURSELVES LOOK RIDICULOUS, AND THEN WE FOUND OUT ANOTHER BOOK, INVISIBLE MAN. ONE OF THE MOST SEMINAL BOOKS ON RACE RELATIONS IN THE LAST 75 YEARS OR SO. LET'S LOOK RIDICULOUS, LET JUST ANXIETY AND LET'S UNITED STATES MINE -- LET'S JUST DO IT AND LET'SUNDER NINE OUR OWN EFFORTS TO MOVE IN COMMONWEALTH FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON COUNTY, SENATOR CARRICO. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR IF. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS BILL CAME THROUGH MY SUBCOMMITTEE AND EXPERTS FROM THE BOOKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE PULITZER PRIZE WINNER THAT THE GENTLELADY FROM FAIRFAX WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, WAS PART OF THE REFERENCE IN WHICH WE LOOKED AT, AND I HAVE EXCERPTS I COULD READ HERE ON THE FLOOR, BUT I'D PROBABLY BE VIOLATING SOME IT USES AND THE EXPLICITY OF IT, RULING BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE SO I'LL FOREGO READING THOSE PARTS OF THE BOOK, BUT NOTHING IN THIS BILL WOULD CENSOR ANYTHING. NOT A SINGLE BOOK WOULD BE REMOVED, NOT A SINGLE STUDENT OR PARENT WOULD BE DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE BOOK. IT JUST BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE PARENT WILL BE NOTIFIED AND PERMISSION FROM THE PARENTS TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL AND STUDENTS WOULD HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE CHOICE IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO READ THAT BOOK. THERE IS IN FAIRFAX FAMILY LIFE EDUCATION A FORM WHICH SAYS THE STUDENT WILL IDENTIFY PREVENTION STRATEGIES OF SEXUAL ABUSE, RAPE, INCLUDING DATE RAPE, AND THE PARENT ALREADY HAS THE OPTION TO OPT THEM OUT OF THAT PART OF IT, BUT YET WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS BOOK SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT AND THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT THE EXPLICIT INFORMATION IN THE BOOK, THE SEXUAL CONTENT. WHEN THIS VERBATIM QUOTATION FROM THESE BOOKS WERE SUB IT INKED TO THE BOARD OF -- SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION CUE TO THE CONTEXT -- DUE TO THE CONTENT, IT COULDN'T EVEN PASS THE FIREWALL. IT COULDN'T GET TO THEM. IN ADDITION, VERBATIM QUOTES WERE REMOVED FROM THE VIRGINIA TOWN HALL SITE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC OFFICE OVERSEEING THE WEBSITE DEEMED THEM TO BE OBSCENE AND HARMFUL TO CHILDREN. YET, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THESE BOOKS WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF OVERSIGHT TO BE USED FOR ASSIGNMENTS IN SCHOOL. THE SECOND THING, AND I THINK THIS WAS SOMEWHAT QUOTED, OF COURSE, I LOOK AT THIS IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE DEBATING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ALL THE TIME, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH YOUNG INFLUENTIAL MINDS. THESE BOOKS TALK ABOUT RAPE AND THEY EXPLAIN THEM EXPLICITLY. THESE BOOKS TALK ABOUT INCEST AND IT EXPLAINS IT EXPLICITLY. THESE BOOKS, THIS PULITZER PRIZE WINNER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKS ABOUT BEASTALITY AND IT EXPLAINS IT EXPLICITLY, AND I SAT IN COMMITTEE AND I STAND BY IT TODAY. YOU KNOW, MY PASTOR USES THE EXAMPLE ONCE IN A WHILE ABOUT SIN, BUT EVIL IS A SEED FROM GROWS AND THESE ARE EVIL ACTS: RAPE, INCEST. WE PASS LAWS AGAINST THEM. ALL THESE THINGS ARE EVIL ACTS. THAT EVIL ACT IS JUST LIKE A KITTEN. IT MAY BE PLAYFUL AND HARMLESS IN THE BEGINNING, BUT YOU FEED THAT EVIL, IT GROWS AND IT GROWS, AND YOU ENCOURAGE THE FEEDING OF THAT EVIL, IT'S GOING TO GROW INTO A LION AND IT'S GOING TO EAT YOU. AND THEN WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THESE VIOLENT ACTS. YET, WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MERE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE OF INFLUENTIAL MINDS THAT YOU'RE GIVING THESE BOOKS TO AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE SUPPORT THE BILL AND WE GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THESE PARENTS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL, TO UNDERSTAND AND OPT THEM OUT AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPTION OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE NOW. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX CITY, SENATOR PETERSEN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. MR. PRESIDENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE SENATE, THERE ARE CERTAIN LIFE EVENTS THAT IF THEY OCCUR TO ME, MY WIFE HAS TO CONTACT THE AUTHORITIES NECESSARILY BECAUSE IT WILL BE PROOF -- IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT WILL BE PROOF THAT I'VE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY ALIENS AND REPLACED BY A BODY DOUBLE, AND ONE OF THOSE WILL BE SERVING ON A SCHOOL BOARD. THE REASON IS JUST THIS. WE HAVE SCHOOL BOARDS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THAT DEAL WITH OUTRAGED PARENTS WHEN A BOOK IS ASSIGNED OR AN ASSIGNMENT IS GIVEN AND THERE'S UNHAPPINESS IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ELECTED AND WE DID CHOOSE TO ELECT THEM MANY YEARS AGO. THAT'S NOT OUR JOB AND REALLY NOT THE JOB OF A STATE AGENCY TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS WHEN WE HAVE A BOARD THAT DOES EXPRESSLY THAT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF BOOKS, BUT IT REALLY SAYS INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL. NOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU STUDY IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT COULD IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES BE CONSIDERED SEXUALLY EXPLICIT. THE STATUE DAVID BY MICHELANGELO, THE STAT STEW OF VENUS DE MILE LO. IF YOU LOOK AT CERTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS IN SLIETION, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED SEXUALLY EX-MESS SIT. THERE'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF A YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS RUNNING NAKED AFTER A BOMB ATTACK. THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SEXUALLY EXPLICIT. WITHOUT CONTEXT, MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF A HAFET BOOK OR ART HISTORY LESSON, IT SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF THEM OR SHOULD BE DECIDED BY SOMEBODY ELSE IF IT SHOULD BE. I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY TEACHERS IN MY DISTRICT WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BILL AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS THEY TEACH ADVANCED PLACEMENT CLASSES WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TAUGHT AS COLLEGE CLASSES WITH A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MATURITY THAT'S ASSUMED. AND YET, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISION HERE FOR 11th OR 12th GRADER TO STUDY THE COLLEGE LEVEL MATERIAL. WE'RE SAYING THIS APPLIES BLANKETY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY PARENT OF A CHILD THAT ATTENDS A HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I'M SIMPLY CLOSE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GRAY SONS EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EVIL IN THE WORLD AND YOU READ ABOUT IT AND YOU ATTEMPT TO OVERCOME IT AND A LOT OF THAT UNFORTUNATELY WILL COME IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. AND EVERY NIGHT I TRY AND READ FROM A GOOK THAT TALKS -- BOOK THAT TALKS ABOUT EVIL, RAPE, INCEST, EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S CALLED THE BIBLE. AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BOOK THAT HAS ALL SORTS OF UNSAVORY INCIDENTS THAT WITHOUT CONTEXT SHOULDN'T BE PERMITTED IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN, THAT WOULD BE ONE GREAT WORK OF LITERATURE I'D COMPLEND TO YOU WOULD QUALIFY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS LEGISLATION GOT OUT OF THE HOUSE 98-0, BUT THIS LEGISLATION IS NOT NECESSARY. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT STAND AT THE GATE TO WATCH THIS ISSUE. IT'S NOT US, AND I THINK THAT THE GENTLELADY FROM NORTHERN FAIRFAX IS EXACTLY CORRECT THAT IF WE DO PASS THIS LAW, I THINK WE'RE SENDING A SIGNAL THAT WE ARE NOT THE -- WOULD THE GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX YIELD FOR A QUESTION? WOT GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR A QUESTION? GLADLY. HE YEEDS, SENATOR GRA YOU'RE TELLING ME A BOOK THAT I READ MORE THAN ANY OTHER, THE BIBLE, EXPLICITLY EXPLAINS RAPE AND INCEST IN THAT BOOK? IN DETAIL. TELL ME THAT. THE SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX CITY. I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK AT THE STORY OF ABSOLOM AND HIS RELATIONS WITH HIS SISTER, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT STORY AND THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF INCEST. AND IT TALKS ABOUT -- COME THROUGH ME. GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR ANOTHER QUESTION? I YIELD. HE YIELD MANY, SENATOR. SO THE GENTLEMAN WON'T TELL ME WHAT REFERENCE HE'S READING IN WHICH IT TALKS ABOUT HOW HE LAYS DOWN HIS SISTER AND HOW HE ACTUALLY DESCRIBES THE ACT THAT HE TAKES WITH HER? WHAT REFERENCE IS HE READING? THE SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX CITY. I WOULD SAY IN THE BOOK OF II SAMUEL, ONE OF THE BROTHERS LAYS WITH ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE KING OF DAVID AND ABSOLOM WILLS THAT BROTHER AND AS A RESULT -- KILLS THAT BROTHER AND THAT INCIDENT IS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN THE BIBLE. IT'S IN THE BOOK OF II SAMUEL. THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON. THE GENTLEMAN IS SAYING THEN THAT -- YOU LIKE TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. YIELD FOR AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION? I DO. HE YIELDS, SENATOR. SO THE GENTLEMAN IS SAYING THAT THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO THE IMAGINATION OF THE ACTS IN WHICH IT IS OCCURRING IN THOSE STORIES? THE SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX I WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN CITY? THAT THE ACT COULD BE DESCRIBED AS SEXUALLY EX-MESS SIT UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS LEGISLATION, ABSOLUTELY, THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBE IN II SAMUEL. THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM LOUDOUN, SENATOR BLACK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MEASURE. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL BEGIN BY SAYING THAT WORCHT MOST DISTURBING THINGS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SESSION HAS BEEN THE CONSTANT NEGATIVE REFERENCES TO HOLY SCRIPTURE, AND I KNOW THEY'RE USED AS JUSTIFICATION FOR EVERY KIND OF WICKED AND EASTERLY THING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF -- EVIL THING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT ON A PERSONAL BASIS, THAT DISTURBS ME, BUT AS TO THIS MEASURE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO HIDE FROM PARENTS? WHY ARE WE TRYING TO HIDE THIS STUFF FROM PARENTS? REMEMBER, REMEMBER WHAT THIS BILL DOES. FIRST OF ALL, IT SIMPLY TAGS MATERIAL THAT IS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT AND IT GIVES NOTICE TO THE PARENT. WHY ARE WE AFRAID TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE PARENT OF MATERIAL THAT IS DEEMED SEXUALLY EXPLICIT? IF WE WERE TO TAG THE STATUE OF MICHELANGELO, WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, EVERYBODY KNOWS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, IT WOULDN'T MAKE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE. NOBODY WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. THAT'S NOT WHAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO TAG AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. SO WE I.D., WE TAG IT, WE GIVE NOTICE TO THE PARENT, AND THEN WE GIVE THE PARENT THE OPTION TO OPT OUT. NOW, WE TALK ABOUT GREAT WORKS. I HEARD SOMEBODY NOT TODAY BUT ANOTHER DAY MENTION THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK. I READ THAT WHEN I WAS YOUNG. I DON'T -- I REMEMBER SOME VERY GENTLE ROMANTIC THOUGHTS AND SO FORTH THAT ANNE FRANK HAD, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT WAS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT AND I'LL TELL YOU -- MR. PRESIDENT. I CANNOT HEAR THE SENATOR. CAN YOU CALL THE BODY TO ORDER, PLEASE? TAKE YOUR SEATS. PLEASE RESUME SENATOR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM GRAYSON SHARED WITH ME PRIVATELY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN THE WORKS THAT WERE CHALLENGED BY THE MOTHER FROM FAIRFAX COUNTY. I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT. IF THAT WERE BEING TAUGHT TO ANY OF MY 14 GRANDCHILDREN, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW -- AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SHE WAS OUTRAGED. THIS MATERIAL SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SCHOOLS AT ALL, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN A VERY GENTLE MEASURE, A VERY -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FRANKLY, OUR CULTURE HAS GOTTEN BEYOND THE POINT WHERE IT IS GOOD AND DECENT. IT YAD TO BE YOU SEND YOUR -- USED TO BE YOU SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND YOU KNEW THAT THE ONE PLACE ON EARTH THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE PROTECTED FROM THINGS THAT WERE INDECENT THAT, WERE NASTY, WAS WITH YOUR SCHOOL TEACHERS. WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANYMORE, BUT WE INTRODUCE A VERY, VERY SOFT AND GENTLE AND MINOR MEASURE THAT SAYS WE IDENTIFY AND FLAG THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, FRANKLY, MANY OF THEM ARE UNLAWFUL. THEY'RE UNLAWFUL. IF THEY ARE OBSCENE, THERE IS A STATUTE IN VIRGINIA THAT MAKES THEM UNLAWFUL. SO WE FLAG THEM. WE GIVE NOTICE TO THE PARENT AND WE GIVE THE PARENT THE OPTION OF HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE. AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT OUR PARENTS AND, FRANKLY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO CLEAN UP OUR SCHOOLS. THEY ARE SIMPLY MOVING IN A VERY DARK DIRECTION IN MANY RESPECTS, IN RESPECT TO THE THINGS THAT WE ARE INSTRUCTING, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRING OUR CHILDREN, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BOYS USING THE GIRLS LOCKER ROOMS AND STUFF. WE'RE JUST GOING NUTS IN OUR SCHOOLS. I MEAN, THEY ARE SINKING BELOW ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED 20 YEARS AGO, AND TO OPPOSE SUCH A GENTLE AND MINOR MEASURE, IT'S REALLY -- IT'S UPSETTING TO ME THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT WE CANNOT NOTIFY PARENTS AND GIVE THEM THE OPTION -- MAYBE WE'RE SIMPLY EMBARRASSED TO HAVE THOSE PARENTS READ THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS. I SUSPECT THAT THAT IS AS MUCH THE MOTIVATION AS ANYTHING BEHIND THE OPPOSITION TO THIS AND I WANT TO SEE THE PARENTS KNOW WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE SEEING, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VOTE FOR THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM HAMPTON, SENATOR LOCKE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING AGAINST THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS ISSUE AROSE OUT OF THE AINEMENT OF THE BELOVED IN AN A.P. ENGLISH CLASS, AND THAT SYLLABUS FOR THAT A.P. CLASS VERY CLEARLY STATED THAT BOOKS ASSIGNED IN THIS COURSE MAY CONTAIN MATURE CONTENT, INCLUDING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE, AND/OR IMPLIED OR EXPLICIT SEXUAL SITUATIONS. INFORMATION ON HOW TO ACCESS ACADEMIC REVIEWS OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT BOOKS, NOTIFICATION THAT AN ALTERNATIVE READING ASSIGNMENT WILL BE PROVIDED IF PARENT AND/OR STUDENT OBJECTS TO THE SELECTION OF ASSIGNED NOVEL, NOTIFICATION THAT A COPY OF THE NOVEL WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PARENTS UPON REQUEST. IT ALSO REQUIRES THE SIGNATURE OF THE PARENT. ANCHT P. COURSES ARE -- A.P. COURSES ARE OPTIONAL, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED BY THE STUDENT. SO IF A STUDENT IS ENROLLED IN A.P. COURSE, THEY DON'T LIKE IT, WHICH ARE COLLEGE LEVEL COURSES, THEY CAN OPT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. ALSO, IN THIS BILL PASSES, IT NOT ONLY APPLIES TO ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS, IT WOULD ALSO APPLY TO SCIENCE, PHYSICAL EDUCATION, SOCIAL STUDIES, ART AND ART HISTORY, AND EVERYTHING THAT A STUDENT WILL TAKE ACCEPT MATHEMATICS. SO IF THAT'S A ROAD THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN WHERE WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO DETERMINE WHAT STUDENTS CAN AND CANNOT READ IN WHATEVER COURSE THEY ARE TAKING, IT WOULD REFER TO AS BEING A KITTEN THAT MORPHS INTO A LION, I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT THIS BILL IS THE KITTEN THAT'S ABOUT TO MORPH INTO A LION BECAUSE NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOMETHING ELSE ADDED ON TO THIS LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BANNING. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM HENRICO, SENATOR DUNNAVANT. SPEAKING TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE NOT BANNING ANYTHING WITH THIS BILL. WE ARE WELL BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE BILL NOW, AND SOMEBODY MUST TAKE ALTERNATE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EDUCATING EVERY CHILD IN THE COMMONWEALTH AND THAT PERSON IS THE PARENT. AND THE PARENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN EVERY SYLLABUS AND EVERY CLASS AND ALL THE MATERIAL THAT THE CHILD IS SEEING AND AS WE'VE HEARD EXPRESSED IN THIS BODY TODAY, THERE WILL BE A WIDE SCOPE OF OPINION ABOUT WHAT YOUR CHILD SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO, BUT THAT DECISION SHOULD REST WITH THE PARENT. IT CONCERNS ME THAT THERE'S CONCERN THAT THE PARENT WOULD HAVE A SAY IN ALL OF THE SYLLABUSES IN THE CLASSES. THIS IN NO WAY CENSORS ANYTHING. THIS BILL SIMPLY PLACES THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND THAT IS WITH THE PARENT TO DECIDE WHAT THEIR CHILD SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO WHILE THEY'RE MINORS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM, SENATOR GARRETT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. I WOULD EQUATE THE TERMS SPEAKING AGAINST THE BILL TO SPEAKING AGAINST TELLING PARENTS WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE REQUIRED TO READ. SPEAKING AGAINST TELLING PARENT WHAT HAPPENED THEIR CHILDREN ARE REQUIRED TO -- PARENTS WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE REQUIRED TO READ. THE WORD BANNING, MR. PRESIDENT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SHIRK THIS BECAUSE I'M -- THE WORD BANNING IS A LIE. THERE IS NO SUGGESTION IN THIS BILL OF BANNING ANY SINGLE BOOK AND THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON IS A LOT NICER FELLOW FOR ME. HE SAID HE WOULDN'T READ THESE PASSAGES. HOW CAN WE DEBATE THEM IF WE DON'T READ THEM. I'LL REDACT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, BUT I'LL READ THEM. WHAT OLD BLACK MAN SAY TO THE HUNCH BACKED 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL, A BOLT OF DESIRE RAN THROUGH HIS GENITALS, SOFTENING THE LIPS OF HIS ANUS. HE WANTED TO F HER TENDERNESS, BUT TENDERNESS WOULDN'T LOLED. THE TIGHTNESS OF HER V WAS MORE THAN HE COULD BEAR. HIS SOUL SEEMED TO SLIP DOWN HIS GUTS AND FLY INTO HER -- MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PRESIDENT. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR A QUESTION? WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A QUESTION? YES, SIR. MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD THE GENTLEMAN AGREE THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT HE IS EVEN REDACTING MAY NOT BE BEST TO HAVE THE PAGES IN THE ROOM AND THAT THE READING OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY NOT BE VALUABLE AT THIS POINT? MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT AS A NIRN WITHOUT THE CONSENT -- MINOR WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THEIR PARENTS. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD CONCLUDE. THE SENATOR FROM JAMES CITY COUNTY. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR A QUESTION? THE SENATOR FROM BUCKINGHAM YIELD? ABSOLUTELY, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I RESPECT YOUR ARTICULATION AND I'M ASKING WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD RESPECT MY VERY HUMBLE REQUEST TO PRANCE NOT BE SO EXPLICIT AND TO RELY UPON THE ARTICULATION THAT I KNOW IS EMBODIED IN YOUR SPIRIT AND YOUR MIND? ABSOLUTELY, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL CONCLUDE. I CEASE READING. THAT MAKES THE POINT, DOESN'T IT? I APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. NOTHING IN THE BILL BANS ANYTHING. SO SPEAK AGAINST THE BILL SPEAKS AGAINST INFORMING PARENTS WHAT THEIR CHILDREN IS REQUIRED TO READ. I'D LIKE VETO POWER BEFORE YOUR VILLAGE IS UNLEASHED ON MY THANK YOU. CHILD. THE SENATOR FROM FRANKLY COUNTY. RISE TO SPEAK TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. I CERTAINLY ENJOY THE DISCOURSE WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ISSUES AND CERTAINLY THESE BILLS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR VIRGINIA. AND I HEARD JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK NEED REMARKING AND I MEAN THEN IN THE MOST SINCERE WAY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIBLE. MY GOOD FRIEND BASICALLY ALL FLOWS GREW UP WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX CITY SAID THAT THE BIEB HAS SOME WHAT WE CONSIDER UNDER THIS BILL, MAYBE SOME SEXUALLY EXPLICIT LANGUAGE AND MAYBE THAT'S A BOOK THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN OUR SCHOOLS. THEN I WAS REMINDED, WE BAN THAT BOOK RIGHT NOW FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE. AS A PARENT, I WANT TO KNOW AND MY WIFE I CAN TELL YOU WANTS TO KNOW AND HAS RESERVED AND EARNED THE RIGHT TO KNOW AND TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR OUR CHILDREN OF WHAT THEY WILL READ WHEN IT COMES TO THISES COULD TEXT. THIS -- THIS CONTEXT. THAT DECISION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ULTIMATE RESTS WITH US, THE PARENT. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. BECAUSE THE SAME DECISION THAT RESULTS IN THAT DETERMINATION THAT RESTS WITH US IN WHAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT READ IN SCHOOL IS THE SAME DETERMINATION AND AUTHORITY AND POWER THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HOME. I'VE HEARD THE WORD CENSORSHIP AND YES, CENSORSHIP IS HORRIBLE IN A FREE SOCIETY. BUT LET ME REMIND YOU, AND ESPECIALLY, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW MY WIFE, MY HOME IS NOT A FREE SOCIETY. CENSORSHIP IS BAD IN A FREE SOCIETY, BUT MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS DEMANDED IN A GOOD FAMILY IN ORDER TO RAISE GREAT CHILDREN WHO WILL THEN BECOME GREAT CITIZENS OF OUR COMMONWEALTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM CHESAPEAKE, SENATOR COSGROVE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING TO THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): MR. PRESIDENT, I HOPE WE'LL PASS THIS BILL, BUT I DO HAVE TO EXPRESS THANKS TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM LYNCHBURG AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM JAMES CITY COUNTY IN PLEADING FOR A STOP TO ONE OF THE WORS -- WORST! -- SOLILOQUIES WE'VE HEARD ON THIS HOUSE FLOOR. I'M ASHAMED. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

[Unknown]: THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM GRAYSON, SENATOR CARRICO. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL BE BRIEF. I KNOW THAT MANY HAVE SPOKEN AND SOME HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE BIBLE AND MY GOOD FRIEND FROM FRANKLIN TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY BANNED THAT FROM SCHOOL. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE REFERENCE MADE TO THE BIBLE ABOUT ACTS ARE NOT EXPLICIT, THEY ARE TO TEACH ONE ABOUT THE EVIL THAT OCCURS, AND I'LL JUST READ FROM THIS PASSAGE. BE SOBER, BE VIGILANT BECAUSE YOUR ADVERSARY THE DEVIL WALKS ABOUT LIKE A ROARING LION, SEEKING WHO HE MAY DEVOUR. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE QUESTION IS SHALL HOUSE BILL 516 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO. ARE THE SENATORS READY TO VOTE? HAVE ALL THE SENATORS VOTED? DO ANY SENATORS DESIRE TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLL.
-- AISLE? LET THEM STRIKE THE BOARD AND THE SENATE WILL STAND AT EASE. S. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE SENATE STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30 AND I WOULD YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM ROCKINGHAM. MR. PRESIDENT, UPON RECESS, I WOULD ASK TO CONSTREEN A MEETING OF THE COURT -- CONVENE A MEETING OF THE COURTS OF JUSTICE COMMITTEE AT MY DESK. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATE WILL STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30. [ GAVEL BANGING ] >> THE SCIENCE WILL COME TO ORDER. WHEN WE LAST MET, WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO PASS THE BIS ON THIRD READING IN BLOCK. THAT'S WHERE WE WILL RESUME. THE QUESTION IS -- IF I COVER EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, FIRST. . WE ARE HAVING A MAJOR ISSUE WITH STATIC ELECTRICITY IN HERE TODAY AND THAT'S WHAT BLEW THE BOARD. SO BEFORE YOU TOUCH YOUR VOTING BUTTON, PLEASE TOUCH THE BRASS PLATE AROUND YOUR MICROPHONE. AND THEN TOUCH -- GROUND YOURSELF. WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO. [ LAUGHTER ] MADAM CLERK -- MOM HAS SPOKEN. MADAM CLERK, THE PEDIATRIC NEUROLOGISTS TAKE CARE OF ELECTRICAL THINGS. [ APPLAUSE ] WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND, SENATOR. SO EVERYONE PLEASE GROUND YOURSELF. IF NOT, SEE SENATOR ALEXANDER. ALL RIGHT. THE QUESTION IS SHALL THE HOUSE BILLS PASS EN BLOC, THAT IS, ALL BILLS EXCEPT FOR 98, 817, AND 1166. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO. ARE THE SENATORS READY TO VOTE? HAVE ALL THE SENATORS VOTED? DO ANY SENATORS DESIRE TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE?

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): AYES 40, NOS 0. THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLL.

[Unknown]: AYES 40, NOS 0. THE BILLS IN THE BLOCK PASS. RETURNING TO PAGE 24, HOUSE BILL 1166. THE SENATOR FROM MECKLENBERG, SENATOR RUFF. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE BILL PASS. THIS BILL IS IDENTICAL TO SENATE BILL 362. IT DEALS WITH SMALL PURCHASE PROCUREMENT OF TRANSPORTATION-RELATED PRODUCTS, PROVIDES THAT A PUBLIC BODY MAY ESTABLISH PURCHASE PROCEDURES NOT REQUIRING COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS OR COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION FOR SINGLE OR TERM CONTRACTS FOR TRANSPORTATION-RELATED CONSTRUCTION IF THE AGGREGATE OR SUM OF ALL PHASES NOT TO XEES $125,000. -- $25,000.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE QUESTION IS SHALL HOUSE BILL 1166 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO. ARE THE SENATORS READY TO VOTE? HAVE ALL THE SENATORS VOTED? DO ANY SENATORS DESIRE TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLL.

[Unknown]: AYES 36, NOS 4. AYES 36, NOS 4. THE BILL PASSES. TURNING TO PAGE 28, REGULAR CALENDAR, HOUSE BILLS ON THIRD READING. HOUSE BILL 158, A BILL RELATING TO GRASS CUTTING IN CERTAIN COUNTIES. REPORTED FROM THE COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SENATOR FROM FRANKLIN, SENATOR STANLEY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN THAT GO BYE TEMPORARILY.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): WITHOUT OBJECTION, HOUSE BILL 168 WILL GO BY TEMPORARILY.

[Unknown]: HOUSE BILL 481, A BILL RELATING TO COMPLIANCE WITH DETAINERS, U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, CRIMINAL INJURIES COMPENSATION FUND. REPORTED FROM THE COMMITTEE ON -- I'M SORRY, THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AND FLOOR AMENDMENT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE SENATE. THE SENATOR FROM SPOTSYLVANIA, SENATOR REEVES. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS A BILL THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE COMMITTEE THAT HAD TO DO WITH -- THAT WOULD DIRECT THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS OR OTHER OFFICIALS IN CHARGE OF SUCH FACILITY IN WHICH AN ALIEN IS INCARCERATED, WHO RECEIVES A LAWFUL DETAINER NOW FROM U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, AND IT SHALL -- THAT INDIVIDUAL SHALL NOT BE RELEASED EXCEPT FOR TRANSFER CUSTODY OF THE ALIEN TO ANOTHER FACILITY OF THE U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS END FORM, PROVIDED THAT THE -- ENFORCEMENT, BROAD/GLENSIDE THAT NO ALIEN MAY BE HELD IN CUSTODY IN EXCESS OF THE DATE THAT HE OR SHE WOULD OTHERWISE BE RELEASED FROM CUSTODY. IT CODIFIES REQUIREMENT GIVEN TO THE DEPEND OF CORRECTIONS BY U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT TO HOLD ALIENS FOR AN ADDITIONAL TIME IF THEY'RE UNDER RETAINER AND I WOULD YIELD TO THE SENATOR -- SENIOR SENATOR FROM LOUDOUN FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD ASK THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE BILL AS WELL? YES, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THIS -- THE BILL MAKES QUITE CLEAR THAT NO ONE CAN BE HELD BEYOND THEIR SENTENCE DATE, AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANT THING. AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING HELD ON A -- OR WHO ARE SUBJECT TO A DETAINER BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMMITTED CRIMINAL ACTS AND SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL PASS THE BILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM FAIRFAX CITY, SENATOR PETERSEN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING AGAINST THE BILL. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. MR. PRESIDENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE SENATE, THIS BILL ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT LIVES IN OUR COMMITTEE, WAS KILLED AT ONE POINT AND THEN BROUGHT BACK, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE EXISTING LAW IS ACTUALLY FRET SIMPLE AND PRETTY -- PRETTY SIMPLE AND PRETTY EASY TO FOLLOW FOR SHERIFFS. WHAT WE'RE DOING IF WE CHANGE IT IS ALMOST CONTRADICT STORY. WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY CANNOT RELEASE A SUBJECT OR AN INMATE THAT HAS A DETAINER ON THEM, BUT IF IT'S SUBJECT TO ICE, BUT THAT'S SAYING IF ICE DOESN'T COME AND PICK THEM UP, WE CAN'T KEEP THEM PAST THEIR LAWFUL CUSTODY DATE. IF THEY'RE ON A DETAINER FROM ICE, THEY CAN ALREADY BE RELEASED TO ICE. WE'VE MADE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR IN THE EXISTING LAW. I THINK IF BEE GO FORWARD WITH -- WE GO FORWARD TO AMENDMENT TO THE STATUTE STH, BILL, WE'RE BASICALLY TELLING THEM THEY CAN HOLD PEOPLE UNDETAINER IF THEY ALREADY SERVED THEIR SENTENCE, WHICH IS I DON'T THINK THE SHERIFFS WERE UNKOOSHLG. CRAZY ABOUT THE BILL FOR BEGIN WITH AND EVEN AMENDED, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES IT BETTER AND I HOPE WE DEFEAT THE BILL. THE SENATOR FROM ARLINGTON, SENATOR FAVOLA. WOULD THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM LOUDOUN YIELD FOR A QUESTION? WOULD THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM LOUDOUN YIELD FOR A QUESTION. I YIELD. I YIELDS, SENATOR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHAT BOTHERS ME IS, I GUESS LINE 16 WHERE YOU -- WHERE THE SENTENCE SAYS THAT HOWEVER, IF A FEDERAL OR STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT SUCH AN ALIEN BE HELD IN CUSTODY UNTIL TRANSFER TO A FEDERAL AUTHORITY, AS I READ THAT, AND I BELIEVE MANY SHERIFFS ARE READING IT, THE INTERPRETATION IS, IS THAT IN FACT, OUR LOCAL JAILS WOULD HAVE TO HOLD THESE INDIVIDUALS UNTIL ICE ACTUALLY PICKS THEM UP. IS THAT YOUR READING OF THIS? THE SENIOR SENATOR. I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLELADY'S QUESTION. THE SITUATION THAT THAT CONTEMPLATES IS A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS IN CONFINEMENT AND PERHAPS IT IS DETERMINED WHILE HE IS IN CONFINEMENT AND WHILE THERE IS A DETAINER OUT FOR HIM THAT HE HAS COMMITTED SERIAL RAPE OF SEVERAL SOMETHING NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO PEOPLE. DO WITH WHY THE DETAINER IS OUT THERE, BUT A REASON THAT INDEPENDENTLY WOULD -- INDEPENDENTLY OF THIS BILL OR ANYTHING, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY HOLD HIM BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT PARTICULAR LINE. IT DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO THE DESTAINER ITSELF. IT SIMPLY SAYS, ALTHOUGH YOU -- UNDER THE DETAINER, THE DETAINER DOES NOT GIVE YOU AUTHORITY TO HOLD THEM BEYOND THEIR TERM OF SERVICE. THEY'VE GOT TO BE RELEASED. HOWEVER, THERE IS ANOTHER REASON THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE HELD AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE IN THAT LANGUAGE. MR. PRESIDENT, SPEAKING TO THE BILL, SPEAKING TO THE MOTION. THE SENATOR HAS THE FLOOR. THE WAY THE SENIOR SENATOR EXPLAINS THE BILL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BILL IS NOT NEEDED BECAUSE UNDER CURRENT PRACTICE, OUR SHERIFFS HOLD INDIVIDUALS AS LONG AS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HELD ACCORDING TO WHATEVER STATE OR FEDERAL STATUTE WOULD BE GOVERNING WHY THE INDIVIDUAL IS EVEN IN JAIL TO BEGIN WITH. IF IN FACT ICE IS CONTACTED, THE SHERIFFS WILL ONLY HOLD THE INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUTIONALLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH WHATEVER THE LEGAL PROCESS IS FOR THE CRIME THEY ALLEGEDLY COMMITTED. SO THAT'S OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS ADDS AN ELEMENT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE I THINK OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND OUR SHERIFFS ARE READING THIS TO MEAN THAT THE INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE IS TO KEEP AN INDIVIDUAL BEYOND, BEYOND WHATEVER STATE OR FEDERAL LAW MIGHT SUGGEST BECAUSE THE ICE INFORMATION IS INTERJECTED AND, YOU KNOW, ICE HAS LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THEIR DATABASE, THEY ISSUE LOTS OF DETAINERS, AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP THESE INDIVIDUALS AND YET, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO NOT HAVE THE SPACE OR THE MONEY TO KEEP THEM AND ICE DOESN'T PICK THEM UP. SO I SEE NO PURPOSE FOR THIS BILL BECAUSE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ALREADY CONDUCTING THEIR BUSINESS THE WAY WE HAD JUST EXPLAINED, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE VERY, VERY CONFUSING. SO I ASK THAT THE BODY VOTE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE SENATOR FROM ROANOKE CITY, SENATOR EDWARDS. MR. PRESIDENT, FIRST, WITH REGARD TO THIS BILL, OUR STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE NOT ICE. THEY'RE NOT THE IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S A FEDERAL LAW -- FEDERAL AGENCY AND THEY HAVE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WITH REGARD TO IMMIGRATION ISSUES. THE PROBLEM ARISES WHEN ICE DOES NOT PICK THEM UP. THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES NOTIFY ICE, NOTHING HAPPENS. AND THIS BILL, I THINK WHAT IT ATTEMPTS TO DO, ALTHOUGH SOMEWHAT CONFUSING, BUT PROBABLY THIS IS WHY THE SHERIFFS DON'T
AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S COMMUNICATION AND VETO. THE BILL HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE THOROUGHLY. AND IN THE PRESS. AND MY ESTIMATION, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, PEOPLE HAVE NOT READ THE BILL THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE BILL OR DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION IS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION, WITH THE ENROLLED VERSION OF THE BILL IT DOES THREE THINGS. THE BOARD WOULD ESTABLISH A POLICY. THE WORK IS WORKING ON TRYING TO DEVELOP A POLICY. AND WOULD REQUIRE PARENTS BE NOTIFIED AND WILL BE GIVEN ASSIGNMENTS RELATED TO INSTRUCTION. TWO, IT'S WOULD PERMIT THE PARENT OF A STUDENT TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL THAT MIGHT INCLUDE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT CONTENT AND PROVIDE IF THE PARENT OBJECTED TO THAT MATERIAL AFTER REVIEWING THE MATERIAL, THE TEACHER ALLOW THE STUDENT TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ASSIGNMENT. THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL DOES. THE GOVERNOR'S COMMUNICATION WHEN HE ADDRESSED THIS BILL DID MENTION THAT HE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PARENTS AND TEACHERS. AND HE AGREE WITH HIM. MR. SPEAKER, THE BILL AUTHORIZES THE BOARD TO COME UP WITH THE AFTER SETTING THAT IN PLACE IN 1987 HE SAYS IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY THE BOARD CAN PROVIDE THAT AND IMPORTANTLY, CLARIFIED IN LEGISLATION THE BOARD WOULD DEFINE WHAT IT CRITERIA AND GUIDELINES. ENTAILS. THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, THE PEOPLE WE ASSUME KNOW BEST ABOUT SETTING POLICY FROM A STATEWIDE STANDARD FOR EDUCATION POLICY. THE GOVERNOR SAYS THAT WE'VE ENTRUSTED MANAGEMENT TO OUR LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS. BEST POSITIONED TO ENSURE OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPOSED TO IMPORTANT WORKS THAT WILL EXPAND STUDENT HORIZON'S AND ENRICH LEARNING. MR. SPEAKER, I AGREE WITH THE HE'S FOR YOT AGAIN ONE IMPORTANT GOVERNOR. ASPECT. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED TO ARE ELECTED BY A PARENT. THE PEOPLE THAT BEST KNOW WHAT THEIR CHILD SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE EXPOSED TO AND ARE ALLOWED THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM MOVIES TO VIDEOS, TO GAMES, THE PARENT MAKES THOSE DECISIONS FOR THE STUDENT. SO I JUST HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE GOVERNOR FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT HE'SING FOR GOTTEN THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER IS THE PARENT. THEY ELECT THE GOVERNORS AND PEOPLE FOR THE COMMON WEALTH. AND IT'S ALLOWING AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED P WHAT THE BILL DOES, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MATERIAL AND TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY BELIEVE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD. SO MR. SPEAKER, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE NUMBERS OF BOTH SIDES WHO VOTED FOR ORIGINAL LEGISLATION TO VOTE TO OVERRIDE THE GOVERNOR'S VETO AND MAKE SURE TO PUT IN PLACE WHAT I THINK IS GOOD PUBLIC POLICY IN EMPOWERING PARENTS IN WHAT SHOULD OCCUR IN THEIR CHILD'S EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX, MR. PLUM.

Del. Ken Plum (D-Reston): SPEAKING TO THE MOTION, MR. SPEAKER.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN HAS THE FLOOR.

Del. Ken Plum (D-Reston): MR. SPEAKER, I THINK THE BEST ADDRESSING OF THE SESSION WAS MADE BY MR. WARE. BUT WHAT HE SAID, HE SAID, NOW, WHEN YOU GO BACK HOME AND GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR SCHOOLS DON'T COME HERE AND PASS A LAW. IT IS THE CASE, MR. SPEAKER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BILL. HOUSE THE GENTLEMAN JUST STATED IT'S OUR PARENTS WORKING WITH OUR ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. NOW, THE OTHER THING I ADD TO THAT IN ADDITION, I ADD TO IT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INCIDENT WE HAD AN INCIDENT OF THE AND AS A RESULT WE HAVE A BILL WHERE THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO SHOW IT'S AUTHORITY. THAT IS AN OVERREACH I THINK THE GOVERNOR RECOGNIZED IS NOT NECESSARY, NOR APPROPRIATE. LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS ARE IN FACT BUILDING WITH PARENTS EVERY DAY. I CAN ASSURE YOU WHEN THERE IS INAPPROPRIATE MATERIAL, THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD HEARS ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE A SAFETY VALVE FOR A DISGRUNTLED PARENT TO RUN DOWN HERE TO GET A BILL IN PLACE. WHEN YOU PIT A BILL IN PLACE, WHEN THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION TRIES TO DEAL WITH IT, YOU TAKE AWAY FLEXIBILITY OF THE BODIES BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE ACTED. MR. SPEAKER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE HOUSE, I DON'T BACK AWAY FROM THE CONCERN PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MATERIALS THEIR CHILDREN ARE EXPOSED TO. THE COMPANY IS HOW YOU DEAL WITH IT. SO I ASK WE UP HOLD THE VETO BY VOTING NO. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN FROM PRINCE WILLIAM, MR. MARSHALL.

Del. Bob Marshall (R-Manassas): SPEAKING BRIEFLY TO THE BILL.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN HAS THE FLOOR. >>.

Del. Bob Marshall (R-Manassas): MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE EXCERPTS FROM THE NOVEL BY TONY MORRISON. I'LL BE GIVE THIS TO ANYONE TO READ ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES. IF YOU HAVE NO FEAR AND THINK YOUR JUDGMENT IS 100%, A, NUMBER ONE, AND THE NEXT PERSON THAT GETS UP, I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO READ THIS. AND WILL GIVE THIS TO MEMBERS OF THE PRESS.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX, MR. ALBO.

Del. Dave Albo (R-Springfield): SPEAKING TO THE GOVERNOR'S VETO, PLEASE.

[Unknown]: SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST?

Del. Dave Albo (R-Springfield): CAN'T HEAR.

[Unknown]: SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST? SPEAKING AGAINST THE VETO.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN HAS THE FLOOR.

[Unknown]: I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX SAID WE SHOULDN'T BE PASSING HER DAUGHTER BRINGS HOME A BOOK WITH THE EXCERPT ABOUT BEASTIALITY. MOTHER GOES OH, MY GOODNESS, SO SHE CALLS A TEACHER. I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE. DO YOU THINK AN ALTERNATE BOOK? SHE GOES TO THE PRINCIPAL. NO. HEY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE. CAN SHE READ AN ALTERNATE BOOK? NO. SHE GOES TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, NO. SHE GOES TO HER SCHOOL BOARD, NO. THEN, SHE GOES TO THE GENTLEMAN SAYING WE NEED A BILL BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR MY DAUGHTER TO READ THIS BOOK. NOW, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT ARE DEMOCRATS AND BRIEF IT OR NOT, THERE ARE ALBOS THAT ARE DEMOCRATS. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE CORRECT. MY FRIENDS SAY YOU REPUBLICANS ARE JUST OVER THE TOP. YOU'RE EXTREME. WE'LL TALK ABOUT EXTREME? WHAT IS SO EXTREME ABOUT SAYING HEY, IF THERE IS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL CAN YOU LET THE PARENT KNOW ABOUT IT? BEFORE YOU READ IT? THIS BILL IS ABOUT THE PARENT. IT'S NOT EXTREME. ALL IT SAYS IS HEADS UP. IF YOU WANT AN ALTERNATE BOOK, I'LL HELP YOU OUT. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THE NEXT TIME YOUR FRIENDS SAY REPUBLICANS ARE EXTREME. TALK ABOUT EXTREME THIS, IS OVER THE TOP EXTREME. I HOPE YOU'D OVERRIDE THE VETO.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX, MR. BULOVA.

Del. David Bulova (D-Fairfax): THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, SPEAKING TO THE VETO.

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN HAS THE FLOOR.

Del. David Bulova (D-Fairfax): MR. SPEAKER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE HOUSE, THIS IS A BILL THAT I VOTED FOR IN EDUCATION COMMITTEE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. IN THIS CASE, A LOCAL PROCESS WORKED. SO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FAIRFAX TALKED ABOUT A PARENT WITH A CONCERN. THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FAIRFAX COUNTY ADOPTED A POLICY THAT GOES BEYOND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON TODAY. SO IT TALKS ABOUT SCHOOLS MUST COMMUNICATE TO PARENTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND SENT TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE. AND NOTIFICATION SHALL INCLUDE AN ALTERNATIVE REQUIREMENT. AND THERE ARE SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL PARENTS. SO I'M SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE AND TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON SEXUALLY EX-ACCOMPLICIVE BUT THIS SITUATION THE PROCESS MATERIALS. WORKED. FAIRFAX COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AND BODY STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE. AND THEY DID IT RIGHT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BROUGHT THAT OUT.

[Unknown]: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER?

Del. Bill Howell (R-Fredericksburg): GENTLEMAN FROM PRINCE WILLIAM, MR. MARSHALL.

Del. Bob Marshall (R-Manassas): WILL THE GENTLEMAN RESUME THE FLOOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF A QUESTION.

[Unknown]: WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

Del. Bob Marshall (R-Manassas): I DECLINE, THANK YOU.

[Unknown]: TOO BAD. SHALL THE HOUSE VOTE TO

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