02/16/2017 House Proceedings

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Index

SB1527—00:00:34
HB1534—00:20:09
HB1854—00:00:28
HB2185—00:00:40
Del. Charniele Herring (D-Alexandria)—05:36
Del. Mark Sickles (D-Alexandria)—01:42
Del. David Bulova (D-Fairfax)—00:36
Del. Kaye Kory (D-Falls Church)—01:36
Del. Steve Landes (R-Weyers Cave)—00:24
Del. David Yancey (R-Newport News)—00:18
Del. Mark Levine (D-Alexandria)—03:18
Del. Randy Minchew (R-Leesburg)—00:06
Del. Scott Lingamfelter (R-Woodbridge)—02:36
Del. Roslyn Tyler (D-Jarratt)—00:00
Del. Ken Plum (D-Reston)—00:48
Del. Alfonso Lopez (D-Arlington)—02:48
Del. Nick Freitas (R-Culpeper)—04:54
Del. Lashrecse D. Aird (D-Petersburg)—01:12
Del. Glenn Davis (R-Virginia Beach)—02:06
Del. Mark Sickles (D-Alexandria)—01:42
Del. Ben Cline (R-Amherst)—00:12
Del. Kirk Cox (R-Colonial Heights)—00:12
Del. Bobby Orrock (R-Thornburg)—00:42
Del. Ron Villanueva (R-Virginia Beach)—00:54
Sen. Todd E. Pillion (R-Abingdon)—00:06
Del. Ron Villanueva (R-Virginia Beach)—02:35
Del. Bobby Orrock (R-Thornburg)—00:00
Del. Rob Bell (R-Charlottesville)—00:06
Del. Kathy Byron (R-Lynchburg)—00:18
Del. Bobby Orrock (R-Thornburg)—00:12
Del. Scott Garrett (R-Lynchburg)—01:30
Del. Dickie Bell (R-Staunton)—00:48
Del. Lee Ware (R-Powhatan)—01:30
Del. Dave Albo (R-Springfield)—02:36
Del. Jackson Miller (R-Manassas)—01:42
Del. Vivian Watts (D-Annandale)—01:48
Del. Joe Lindsey (D-Norfolk)—02:00
Del. Greg Habeeb (R-Salem)—02:06
Del. Bobby Orrock (R-Thornburg)—02:41
Del. Dickie Bell (R-Staunton)—04:00
Del. Todd Gilbert (R-Woodstock)—00:00
Del. Jeff Campbell (R-Marion)—00:18
Del. Nick Freitas (R-Culpeper)—00:06
Del. Joseph Yost (R-Blacksburg)—00:18
Del. Kirk Cox (R-Colonial Heights)—00:36
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Minutes

Called to order at 12 m. by William J. Howell, Speaker

Mace placed on Speaker's table by Sergeant at Arms

Prayer offered by The Reverend Dr. Allen Jessee, Pastor, Highlands Fellowship Church, Abingdon

Delegate Cox led the House in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America

Attendance roll call - Quorum present

Leave of Absence granted: Delegate Miyares

Journal for Wednesday, February 15, 2017, approved by the Speaker

Senate communication received
House bills passed with Senate amendments: HBs 2064, 2240, 2338, 2386, 2467
House bill passed with Senate substitute: HB 2051
Senate bill, House amendment rejected: SB 1180
House bills passed: HBs 1411, 1622, 2035, 2127, 2184, 2231, 2424, 2462
House bill, Senate receded from amendment: HB 2302
Senate bills, House amendments agreed to: SBs 894, 944, 975, 1229, 1242, 1250, 1366, 1511, 1546
Senate bills, House substitutes agreed to: SBs 974, 1048

Committee reports
From Appropriations: SBs 868, 1020, 1045S, 1122, 1239A, 1240, 1283, 1307, 1371, 1574S, 1591S
From Transportation: SBs 1021, 1085As, 1169, 1279, 1316, 1363, 1384, 1494As, 1507S, 1514

SB 1180 - House insists on amendment and requests Committee of Conference

HR 402 taken up and agreed to

Motion by Delegate Aird to adjourn in honor and memory of Jack W. Gravely agreed to

Resolutions presented and laid on Speaker's table pursuant to House Rule 39(a)

CALENDAR

SENATE BILLS READ THIRD TIME
UNCONTESTED CALENDAR
SB 1486A - Passed by for the day
SB 1005S - Passed by for the day
SB 1516S - Committee Substitute agreed to, Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1527S - Committee Substitute agreed to, Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 880 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 922 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1069 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1148 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1178S - Committee Substitute agreed to, Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1364 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1417 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1462S - Moved to Regular Calendar
SB 1497 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1532 - Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)
SB 1577S - Committee Substitute agreed to, Passed Block Vote (Y-97 N-0)

SENATE BILLS READ THIRD TIME
REGULAR CALENDAR
SB 995S - Passed by for the day
SB 997S - Passed by for the day
SB 1416 - Passed (Y-95 N-2)
SB 1504A - Delegate Orrock floor amendment agreed to, Defeated (Y-32 N-66)
SB 1462S - Passed by for the day

HOUSE BILLS WITH SENATE AMENDMENTS
HB 1534 - Senate substitute rejected (Y-49 N-49)
HB 1854 - Senate substitute rejected (Y-0 N-97)
HB 1926 - Senate amendment rejected (Y-0 N-96)
HB 2024 - Senate substitute rejected (Y-0 N-97)
HB 2185 - Senate amendments agreed to (Y-83 N-14)

RESOLUTION
REGULAR CALENDAR
SJR 295 - Passed by for the day

SENATE BILLS READ SECOND TIME
UNCONTESTED CALENDAR
SB 852S
SB 898S
SB 968
SB 991
SB 1074
SB 1100
SB 1129S
SB 1136
SB 1143
SB 1158
SB 1159
SB 1201
SB 1231
SB 1245A
SB 1255
SB 1293
SB 1398S
SB 1414
SB 1431
SB 1493S
SB 1530
SB 1535
SB 1538
SB 1586

SENATE BILLS READ SECOND TIME
REGULAR CALENDAR
SB 866
SB 906
SB 990
SB 1098
SB 1110
SB 1195S
SB 1196S
SB 1224
SB 1258
SB 1287A
SB 1425
SB 1473

Motion by Delegate Cox to adjourn agreed to

House adjourned at 1:30 p.m. to meet Friday, February 17, 2017, at 10:00 a.m.

Transcript

What follows is a transcript of this day’s session that was created as closed-captioning text, written in real time during the session. We have made an effort to automatically clean up the text, but it is far from perfect.

Bill Howell
The House will come to order. Members, please take your seats. Sergeant at arms. >> The House is now in session. All persons not entitled to privileges of the floor, please retire to the gallery.
Bill Howell
The members will rise and be led in prayer by the Reverend Dr. Allen jessee, pastor, highlands fellowship church, abingdon. And remain standing for the pledge of allegiance to be led by the gentleman from Colonial Heights, Mr. Cox.
Kirk Cox
Let's pray. Our father, thank you for giving us that great day. Thank you nor the position of influence you have bestowed upon each of us. We recognize today you are a loving father, a caring father. God, you are competent to handle anything that we face. You are a close father never leaving or forsaking us. I pray tore each Delegate that represents our state that you give them wisdom and strength and remind us that the positions we have have been granted us about I your sovereign hand. May these delegates represent the state of Virginia so we are model to follow. Lord, we love you and we thank you for first moving us. We are humble -- first loving us. We are humbled that your son would lay down his life for us, giving us the opportunity to be forgiven. Your grace truly a amazing. May we live a life and honor you and give you glory, in your name we pray, amen.
[Unknown]
Amen.
Kirk Cox
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. And to the republic, for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Bill Howell
The members will answer roll call by indicating their presence on the electronic voting board.
Bill Howell
The clerk will close the roll. Mr. Speaker, a quorum is present.
Bill Howell
Pursuant to House rule 3, I have examined and approved the journal of the House of delegates for February 15, west Virginia. Motions and resolutions under rule 39 are now in order. Can the House come to order, please? Does the clerk have any announcements or noncations?
[Unknown]
The Senate has reject the House amendments to Senate bill 1180.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Colonial Heights exploration Cox .
[Unknown]
I insist and the amendments and request a committee of conference on the previously reported legislation as many as favor that motion say aye, those opposed no. The motion is agreed to.
[Unknown]
Today is the deadline for members to request and I emphasize the word request to let division of legislative services any and all drafts, redrafts or objections for joint, memorial and commending resolutions. Tomorrow at 3:00 p.M. Is the deadline to submit requests to be removed as copatron from legislation to the clerk's office here.
Bill Howell
The gentlewoman from Alexandria, Ms. Herring.
[Unknown]
I rise for a point of personal privilege.
Bill Howell
The gentlewoman has the floor.
[Unknown]
I rise to commemorate Black history month. May focus is our children past and present. We have worked hard to make sure we are making Virginia the best place to live and to be educated so that our children's future can be bright. Today we hear talk of a new civil rights movement, resistance, defiance and protest. We live in a time of unprecedented protests of our government. What we teach our children is what we want them to carry forward to the next generation. I would like to take a moment to honor the children of the movement that forever changed our nation. In 1964, norman rockwell created a painting called "a problem we all live with" that depicts a 6-year-old girl named ruby ridges as she arrives to integrate Williams friend's school in louisiana. It is based on a photo. You May recall she is a wearing a stark white dress, books under her left arm with a ruler and surrounding here are four u.S. Marshalls with arm bands whose heads are not visible. In Virginia, we have a Norfolk 17. Students were say signed to schools. Instead of accepting the status quo they started tutoring sessions at the first baptist church of Norfolk. They took classes in core sub subjects and spanish and were taught to brace themselves for the abuse that was sure to come when they were eventually opened. They were told to be on your guard "ignore the name calling, sit in front of the class so there will be a witness if other students hurt you. Sit near the door in case you are attack the and need to exit quickly ." one of the students, patricia turner recalls, we were 12, 13, 14-year-olds. We were too young to be afraid. Another said in an interview when she arrived to the integrated junior high school she saw the police and thought there was an accident. Her aunt directed her, just go that the school. Lolita realized actually the police were there to escort here into the school. And, of course, in Alexandria we will always, always remember the titans. The tc Williams titans 1971 championship team did win a real life victor I have. Tc Williams was integrated in 1965 when three high schools became one. According to an english teacher at the time the students adjusted pretty well to the integrated situation. The kids behaved a whole lot better than the adults. These young people have shown that in the face of what seems to be unsurmountable odds and in the face of diskrame nateery practices fortitude and strength will get yew through. It can be as simial as living your life and making sure you are getting to school. Of course, it isn't always that simple. Many of the people I have referenced have shown -- have had shadows follow them throughout their lives. The children were courageous and brave and many paid a Price. These children who bravely led their lives were an inspiration to a nation. But in preparing for my moment today in Black history, what struck me were the shadows that forever followed these children who are now adults. They suffer from anxiety and inability to eat alone or eat in public because of the terrors they faced sitting alone in the school cafeteria and being bullied. Caused me to consider the issues of today and what we see from the nation's capital. Today, many children in our nation even those born on this soil are facing uncertainty and anxiety due to the threats of deportation or deportation of their families. I have heard from them and their teachers and their parents. These are my constituents. Students in our colleges and universities have been barred from returning simply because of where they are from. I'm certain, yes, they have the fortitude we have seen in children in our nation's history. But I wonder the cost that they will have to pay and we as a nation have to pray when we try to isolate people and use fear in an attempt to make people feel more secure. Unless we are native american, we are, indeed, a nation of immigrants. From an airplane to the bowels of a ship shackled in chains we have made this great land our home. The lesson I take away from looking at the bravery of the children in the past the best that we can do sometimes is to live our lives and treat people, love people like our brothers and sisters. And treat them the way that we would want to be treated. Dr. King said the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. I believe sometimes we take our time to do what is right. There is a cost to be paid by each individual and in our communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [applause]
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax, Mr. Sickles.
Mark Sickles
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman May proceed.
Mark Sickles
Joining us in the back of the chamber, a 24 year member of congress serving us still as a member of the portman rail authority. Congressman jim Moran. If you could stand up and say hello. [applause] Mr. Speaker if I could say in addition that jim always worked on a bipartisan basis in congress and became a member of the appropriations committee I think in his second term. He became is very senior member of the defense appropriations subcommittee and served on a bipartisan basis. There is an $800 million state the art hospital and wounded warrior barracks adjacent to that that he is largely responsible for. He worked with tom Davis and frank wolf, another important member of our appropriations committee. We have a new road being built, route 1 that he was clever enough to get through congress without an ear mark. He can explain how he can do that after the earmark era ended. The whole Mason neck area in south Fairfax County where some of us are from, near there, the bureau of land management owns a big part of it. We did a great deal 15 or 20 years ago with tom Davis to set that land aside forever. So, those are just a few things that congress Moran did for us and thank you for recognizing him this morning. [applause]
[Unknown]
Delighted to have copman conn Moran with us today. Thank you for taking time to visit the capitol.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax, Mr. Bulova.
David Bulova
Thank you, I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman May proceed.
David Bulova
I'm pleased to have with us in the gallery and I think we still have some of the stairwell members of several girl scout troops from Fairfax and burke and also Prince William County. These young leaders have spent the morning touring the capitol and learning about how the representative democracy works. They had a mock debate in one of the House rooms with regard to the gentleman from stanton's school discipline bill. He will byplaysed to know that it passed 17-2. I ask that you please rise and I ask the body to give them a warm House welcome. [applause]
Bill Howell
We are delighted to have the girl scouts and their leaders with us today. Thank you for taking the time to come to the capitol. The gentlewoman from Fairfax, Ms. Kory.
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for an
[Unknown]
The gentlewoman has the into are. An art show being held in seven west today entitled special art from special arties and the art in this show has been brought to us by arc as a program called art for the journey which is based at the ae commonwealth vcu, students working with patients who have alzheimer's and dementia and creating art which is now displayed in 7 west. And another organization jacob's chance. We have art representing every type of disability or empediment to a-- impediment to allowing their talents and spirits to be out in the world. And I urge you if you haven't been able to come through 7 west, please come through this afternoon before we have to start taking things down. And today in the gallery, there are representatives from those groups and a few of the artists whose art is displayed. At this time I ask them to rise and for you all to give them a warm House welcome. [applause]
Bill Howell
Delighted to have the visitors with us today. The gentleman from Augusta, Mr. Landes.
Steve Landes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman May proceed.
Steve Landes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House on behalf of the gentleman from Rockbridge and the gentleman from stanton, it is my pleasure to welcome to the House and they are in the gallery today, members of the Augusta Highland Rockbridge ffa federation led by christy care. And I would ask that this he stand. They have taken a tour of the capitol and are sitting in on our session and committee sessions today. So if the House could welcome them to the House. [applause]
Bill Howell
Pleased to have the students with the faa with us today. The gentleman from Newport News Mr. Yancey.
David Yancey
I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
David Yancey
Joining us are students from social work at the university. These juniors taught by diane Griffith are visiting us today as part of their social policy analysis class. They have been meeting with legislateors about education issues. I would ask that the House give them a warm House welcome. [applause]
Bill Howell
Pleased to have the students with us today. The gentleman from Alexandria, Mr. Levine.
Mark Levine
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Mark Levine
Thank you, Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House. I heard the gentleman from Henrico yesterday, I think it was yesterday say that we had the worst recovery from the worst recession since the great depression. And in sense he is right. We have had the worst. We have also had the best recovery from the worst recession since the great depression because it was the only recovery from the great recession from the worst depression. The interesting question is how come we diplomat have the worst depression. I have been looking at economic statistics and comparing them. It May surprise some people in the chamber to know that we were worse off in 2008 than we were in 1929. The economy was not good in 929. We were in free it is fall in 2008. The tough difference is what happened the following year. In 1930 president hoover decided this was the time to cut the budget so he raised taxes and removed economic stimulus at the worst possible time. We know the result. President obama went the different direction. He appointed a wonderful federal reserve chair who I think is the best we had, janet yellin and we turned out so well that actually unemployment never got as high as it did, for example, under president reagan. By the way, president ray good n defined the best economy as when the misery index is the lowest. Find out what the misery in tex is. And when it is lowest that is when there is a least amount of misery. Under president obama we had the lowest misery index in 50 years. Thanks, obama. [applause]
[Unknown]
But, there are storm clouds on the horizon. It is true that we are not recovering as fast as we could have and I would argue the reap for that is because of the sequester. In 2011-2012 those in cop that took an axe rather than a scapelto the budget. Virginia has more federal works than any other state in thiate. % of the Virginia workforce is nondefense federal workers. A who empeople. That my constituents. When I went in the federal workforce I took a massive pay cut because I wanted to do the best to help my community. I know everyone in it room has taken a massive paycut because you want to be a public servant. The president has issued a hiring freeze for 90 days have, this is not good for Virginia, the federal workforce or the economy. I hope we encourage the president or congress to be against this. Axing the federal workers doesn't help the economy and doesn't help Virginia and I urge everyone to encourage our friends in Washington not to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[Unknown]
I thank you. Mr. Speaker. I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
Thanks you, Mr. Speaker at on the north side of the gal I have ha large enthusiastic garoppolo from heritage Hall. I would ask that they would stand. This group is touring the capitol today and they were able to attend the morning meeting of the transportation committee ably chaired by the gentleman from Virginia beach and see legislation in action. I ask that we extend this group from heritage high school a warm House welcome. [applause]
[Unknown]
We are delighted to have the students from heritage high school with us today and we hope you enjoy your time at the capitol.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Prince William, Mr. Lingamfelter.
Scott Lingamfelter
Mr. Speaker, I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Scott Lingamfelter
Mr. Speaker, bring this back to us a little closer to home today. We are honored to have on the hill today with us the cadets from the Virginia military institute my alma mater and on behall half of Delegate ben Cline and myself we would like to welcome them. Tonight, Mr. Speaker, at the library of Virginia, we will have a wonderful reception from 6:00 p.M. To 8:00 p.M. Put on by the Richmond club. We hope you will come over and meet the cadets and talk to them about their experience and enjoy the company of folks at the reception. Mr. Speaker, some weeks ago, we saw the corps marching in the president's inaugural parade. And for those of you who watched the parade, they were eyal unitt that passed and they were spectacular. And if you -- I mean you just can't imagine how impressive they looked. And a lot of people had a lot of good things to say. But, Mr. Speaker, let me share with you what their day was like. When the first notes you hear on any day are revelry you have a disciplined day that lies ahead of you. Here is what that day was like for temperature. Woke at 5:30 in the morning and had breakfast and marshalled and departed on buses to the pentagon at 0700. At 11:30 arrive. 12:00, went through security. Reloaded the buses to move to the marshaling area. At 1500, they off loaded the musts, got into the uniforms and got their weapons ready and formed up in two battalions en masse. From 16:30 to 17:00 they moved to the start point. At 17:15 they actually stepped off, that is 5:15 in the afternoon. At 18:30 they were done hitting the release point, reloaded the buses. Departed at 19:00 back to Lexington. The next morning they got up and had academic day. They have some of those left in Virginia on saturdays. And on Sunday afternoon they went out and did a 20 mile road March with supervisors and their leaders and the next two weeks they prepared for their exit from the rat line with a very demanding physical program for two weeks. Folks, these guys and gals are made of steel and I wish you would welcome them to the hill today. [applause]
Bill Howell
We are honored to have the cadets from vmi. And I know that many of us had the opportunity to talk with you at different times today. Very impressed with the caliber of the student body at Virginia military and thank you for taking the time to come visit with us today. Gentlewoman from Sussex, Ms. Tyler.
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a request.
[Unknown]
The bendle lady May state it.
[Unknown]
I request that h.R. 42 be taken out of order.
[Unknown]
House resolution number 4
[Unknown]
I move the adoption of the resolution.
Bill Howell
The question is on adoption of the resolution. As many as favor that motion sa. The resolution is agreed to.
[Unknown]
Thank you.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax ,
[Unknown]
I rise for an introduction. Mr. Plum.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
Things happen that remind us of days gone by and I am reminded of my p. Great friend and colleague, vince calahan. A five member district. He was a republican and I was a democrat and we were able to work together closely over the years. And as we went to single member districts we continued to work together. Things got reversed here and he found himself in the majority and I am the minority but we continued to keep in mind what was best for the commonwealth. Vince was an outstanding legislateor. His spouse yvonne calahan is visiting us in the back of the gallery. She work the here in the legislature on behalf of legislation. She is here visiting us today. I hope we will give her a warm welcome. Yvonne calahan. [applause]
[Unknown]
Yvonne it is a pleasure to have you here with us today and reminisce about old times. Those who have come down the sixth floor seeing the beautiful portrait of the speaker,.
[Unknown]
That was a gift from yvonne and vince in vince's memory. It is very special to us. Thank you again for being here. [applause]
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Suffolk, Mr. Morris.
[Unknown]
Mr. Speaker, I rise for an introduction. Joining us Delegate Tyler and I would like to welcome the senior class from tidewater academy located in wakefield, Virginia. It was founded in 1964. Fully accredited through the Virginia association of independent schools and they offer an outstanding education from pre-k through 12th grade. The athletic program renowned for many years. Capturing championships in baseball, basketball and softball. Please join me in giving the tidewater students and staff a warm House welcome. [applause]
Bill Howell
Pleased to have the students with us today. The gentleman from Arlington, Mr. Lopez.
Alfonso Lopez
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Rise for a point of personal privilege.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Alfonso Lopez
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, immigrants across the country are staying home from work to show how critical they are to the u.S. Economy and our way of life. In northern Virginia a number of businesses are closed as small business workers, dentists, restaurant workers, janitors and tech executives stay home to protest what they see as assaults on immigrant communities. On the day without immigrants I think it is pop to remember impo remember some facts. Virginia is home to more than one million foreign born residents. Almost 20 business of Virginia business owners are foreign born and make up 30% of all Virginia main street business own errs. Almost three times the share of the pap lakes. Since 20, increased from 8% to 12%. In the same period of time immigrant ownership of main street businesses jumped from 23% to 34% even while the number of main street business owners in Virginia has remained relatively unchanged. Main street businesses can be catalysts for reviving struggling area. Main street businesses not only help grow the economy by creating new jobs but also trentons the local communities. Immigrants, latino and haitian entrepreneurs added tens of thousands of jobs. There were 53,709 foreign business owners in biz. 14.9% of all net business income in the state. In 2013, immigrants made up 15% of the Virginia work force. The value added by immigration to the Price of the average home was $7,400 in Fairfax. And $5,600 in Prince William County. In 2013, just foreign born latinos in Virginia paid $1.000000000 in federal taxes and $556 million in tate and local taxes. Virginia's 17,000 foreign students contributed $487.5 million to the state economy in tuition, fees and living ex-hences trust just for the 2013, 2014 academic year. In 49ers, nonresident aliens -- in 200,923.3% of passer ins degrees. This is a long way of saying think about these stats as we continue to atreasure anti-immigrant legislation in this again assembly. Legislation which will hurt our economy and all of us in our pocketbook as well as our reputation around the world. New americans and immigrants are a vital part of our commonwealth. We should treat them as such. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [applause]
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Culpeper, Mr. Frates.
[Unknown]
I rise for a point of personal privilege.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
Listening to some of the comments with respect to economic recoveries and the great depression I always find some what interesting because of the revisionist history often we look at the great depression. Used. What exactly happened there. So we had a stock marketcrash in 929 and an immediate economic downturn but the economic started to recover. What was different is we did something unique and it was under a republican. We did something unique that ended up being a model that other democrats and especially f.D.R. Would use in intervening into the economy. So we had a massive economic downturn in the early '20s was a well. What was the response by harding and coolidge, reduction taxes and government spending. Almost an immediate government turn around. 1929 the government massively intervened in the economy and one of the things I hope some of my colleagues will agree is one of the biggest things we did that was a problem is we passed a tariff which resulted in a trade war. I am a major free trade advocate. I will say this much. The lesson of the great depression should not be more government spending is the answer. The lesson of the 1930's is that government intervention into the economy is what turns a recession into a depression. We experienced double digit unemployment through the 1930's and for the people that think that its world war ii that got us out of that, I remind you even after world war ii when we won the war and coming home youd a the economists lining up to say we can't disband large portions of the military and stop building aircraft carriers. Keep that in mind for a second. What the interventionists were arguing at the end of world war ii is that we had to continue to maintain an 8 million person army that we didn't need. Continue to spend billions of dollars on war machinery for a war we had won. And our excuse was the economy can't possibly absorb all of the troops returning home. And in fact if you look at gdpnumbers 1946 looks like we experienced a great depression. Takes into account the. A of money the government spends even when this is borrowing it or printing it. We had one of the largest swaths of economic growth in the private sector. But the numbers look like we had a horrible year. The lesson of all of this should be and the lesson of this horrible recovery should be is when government receives to intervene into the economy and take more control and more money out of the hands of the productive sector of the gin and give it to us, that might work well for bomb tases. It doesn't work well for economy or entrepreneurs and people hurt the most which is poor people when we have to try to control everything from Richmond for Washington, d.C. If you want to see greater economic expansion for everybody it doesn't come by the government taling more of your money -- stealing more of your money to distribute it to the people that have the best political connections. It comes from allowing those who produce to keep more of what they earned so that we have a consumer driven economy as opposed to a government directed one. And I get if it May be tempting and if john maynard kane get got one thing right, he got this right. If you want an economic policy it to be popular to politicians make politicians the center of the policy. The answer is not what hoover did or d.R. Did. The answer is certainly not what barack obama did and it wasn't quite frankly what george w. Bush did. In some of his policies either. At the end of the day, here is the question. Do we trust free people to spend their money and invest their money the way they see fit when they are paying the risk or take that from them and put it in your control. Quite frankly, I think there are too many politicians that think the constituents are brilliant when voting for them but that stupid to do anything in their own lives. If we want to see economic recovery. Look at the past what happened when we had major economic downturns and allowed the free market to work. We saw incredible recoveries. We saw innovation. We saw new technological advancement which helped everybody. And when government tries to run it from Richmond or Washington, d.C. Because we are just one five year plan away from success, comrade, it doesn't work. We either trust a group of politicians to manage our economy or us. Or we are going to trust free men and women to be age to invest, spend their money on the needs, wants and services that they want through voluntary cooperation within a free market. Mr. Speaker I would choose a free market every day of the week and twice on Sunday. [applause]
Bill Howell
The gentlewoman from Petersburg, Ms. Aird. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a much lighter note, Mr. Speaker. [laughter]
[Unknown]
I rise for introduction and a motion.
Bill Howell
The gentlewoman has the floor.
[Unknown]
Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House on January 13 we passed House resolution 283 in memory of jack grave ling. We are joined by his wife, sibling, children, his pastier bishop jeffrey Reeves and a close friend in the House gallery. I ask that they please stand. Jack was a pillar for justice in our commonwealth and a man of deep humility. He was known for his activism and civic mindedness which he expressed most notably as a radio host and through his work with the Virginia state conference naacp. His commentary appeared regularly in local and national newspapers and he was a saw the-after speaker delivering over 600 speeches across the country. His demonstration of faithfulness, dignity and grace will forever inspire the lives of all those he touched especially his wife and his children and grandchildren. Mr. Speaker, and ladies and gentlemen of the House, please join me in giving his family a warm House welcome. [applause]
[Unknown]
And Mr. Speaker, I also move that when the House adjourns today we do so in the honor and memory of jack gravelly.
[Unknown]
As many as favor that motion will please rise.
[Unknown]
That motion is agreed to.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Virginia beach, Mr. Davis.
Glenn Davis
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Glenn Davis
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I apologize, I didn't know today was going to be the economy and immigration tay on immigration day onthe floor of y colleague handled the economy side of the equation. We need to address the immigration piece because I want to make sure we all understand what we are talking about so many some of us don't get the colleague want to talk about branded. The impact of nonresident aliens. And that was a relatively new term for me so I had to look it up because I wanted to seat impact and where it is coming from. There are four different levels of aliens. The legal alien who is a noncitizen legally permitted to be in the country. A nonresident alien who is a noncitizen visiting for example as a tourist on business, entertain, sports people or in the country to receive medical treatment. A resident alien who is a per ma intercept resident in the country. But what the gentleman didn't mention was the illegal immigrants or those undocumented and are not a citizen that enter through irregular immigration. For example illegal I or they are not statued here properly. And Mr. Speaker, I think we all understand that almost all of us came here through an immigrant. My great grandfather came to the united states for the american dream. You can come here to create something for yourself and your family and maybe that next generation. J., that is what this country requires everybody that comes here. That requires coming here to want to be after that and come through the measures that allow you to do so legally. You see, Mr. Speaker, most of us are here because of our grandfathers or great grandfathers or great grandmothers that came here decades and decades or maybe a century ago. For us to have economic prosperity for all of america, the first thing we have to have is safety and safety starts with knowing who is in your country. I would say that that body as a whole believes in the prosperity of all immigrants but we want to know who those immigrants or in country so not only can we all prosper together but we can all be safe together. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [applause]
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax, Mr. Sickles.
Mark Sickles
Thank you, Mr. Speaker I rise for an introduction.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Mark Sickles
I do opinions on the economy and where we are but I will save that for another day. [cheers and applause]
[Unknown]
I have smart people that joined us in the gallery from george Mason school for conflict and resolution. I hope they will arise. What I was about to say, colleagues yale not sure whether the president angel cabrera is there with them. He was on campus this morning. The whole community of faculty, staff, allomone and part sherrs committed to the research of. In this comprised of community of scholars, graduate and undergraduate student is, aah alumni. They are recognized for the heedership in the field and the world renoped faculty. Mr. Speaker, this body has helped with the contributions of many in the community particularly of the donation of land to build a facility called point of view it is in Delegate Albo 's district on beautiful Mason neck. And I have some little a couple of brochures about it if you are interested in it. It has just opened this year. And on April 22, excuse me, that is April 30 from 3:00 to 6:00 p.M. A major opening gala for the facility. If you would like to learn more about it flag them down or flag me down and I thank you, Mr. Speaker for your time and indulgence.
[Unknown]
Thank you and we thank the men and women coming from george Mason. Glad to have you here today. Does the clerk have any bye for the day announcements?
[Unknown]
Yes, sir, Mr. Speaker. Several. Under the category Senate bills third reading uncontested Page 1, s.B. 1486 has been asked to be taken bye for the day by Delegate Miller. 145 has been asked to be taken bye for the day. Turning to the next category on Page 67, Senate bills third reading regular Senate bills 995 and 997 both patronned by Delegate. And Page soo resolutions regular in that category, Senate bill 295 patronned by another Vogel asked to be staken bai tore the day.
[Unknown]
Rice for a motion.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
I move that the bills go bai for the day.
Bill Howell
Without objection those listed will go bye for the day. Further motions and resolutions under rule 39?
[Unknown]
I forgot to do this one. Pursuant to House rule 30 the journal shall reflect the following member is away on pressing personal business and granted leave from the session. Delegate Miyares. Clerk will call the calendar.
[Unknown]
Senate bills on third reading uncontested calendar. Approximately 15 bills in the block. Senate bill 146 taken bye for the day. Turning to Page 2. Senate bill 1005 taken bye for the day. Senate 1516. A bill to amend and reenact relating to public schools. Reading specialist. Dyslexiad a vaseor.
[Unknown]
I move the committee substitute.
Bill Howell
The question is on the committee substitute. As many as favor that motion sas ed no. The substitute is agreed to. The gentleman from rock bridge.
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, Senate bill 1516 would ensure that reading specialists in jurisdictions where there are reading specialists are available to give advice and training on dyslexia to parents and teachers. Hope it is the pleasure of the House to pass the bill.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1527 a bill to amend and reenact relating to the Virginia guaranteed assistance program eligible renew fall amount of grants. Report the from the committee on appropriations with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Colonial Heights, Mr. Cox.
Kirk Cox
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. S.B. 1527 is identical to h.B. 2427. This deals with financial eight and makes sure the student is are rewarded as they move up with more financial aid and makes thundershower show are taking 30 hours to qualify for each year. I hope it would he about the pleasure to pass the bill.
Bill Howell
The question is on the committee substitute. As many as favor that motion sas the substitute is aagreed to. Ed no.
Kirk Cox
Senate bill 880. A bill to amend and reenact a section of the code relating to genetic counselors. Licensing, grandfather clause. Reported from the committee of health and welfare and in city tubes.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from care lane, Mr. Orrock.
Bobby Orrock
Senate bill 880 extends for one additional year the time by which id individuals are practicing under genetic counseling May qualify by getting their master's degree. I move the bill be passed.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 922. A bill to amend and reenact relating to the department of professional occupation and department of health professions and health regulatory boards issuance and regulation of licenses cert fixes legislation and multistate licenses or privileges.
Bobby Orrock
Mr. Orrock.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 922 is meant to address some what of an anomaly where by the departments have routinely been issuing licenses permits and other certifications but the code clearly just gave them the authority to issue licenses. This makes clear that they can perform the duties they have been doing and hope the bill will pass. >> Senate bill 1069. Relating to titling salvage vehicles.
[Unknown]
Are the rockbridged from the commit oh on transportation.
[Unknown]
1069 provides a process by which the other than of a salvage vehicle rebuilt, tight manied and registered no another state May obtain a nonneglectable title for the vehicle to operate in the commonwealth. It pass the unanimously in the stat and in the transportation committee, I move that the bill pass. Senate bill 11148 a bill to a bl to amend and reenact relating to authority of the commissioner of highways to lease or convey airspace.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1148 requires currently public advertisement for bits and requires the commissioner to accept the highest bid from a reasonable bidder and allows for the commissioner more flexibility in negotiating leases of airspace as opposed to being required to simply take the highest bid. The bill saves the taxpayers money. I move that the bill pass.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1178. A bill to amend and reenact. Relating to prescription of buprenorphine without naloxone; limitation. Reported from committee on health, welfare and institutions request substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Washington .
[Unknown]
I move the committee substitute.
Bill Howell
The question is on adoption of the committee substitute. As many as favor that motion sa. The substitute is agreed to. The gentleman from Washington .
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1178 is now identical to House bill 216 about which passed unanimously and clarifies who May be prescribed bubrenorpine without nalokone.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1364 a bill to amend and reenact virgia, relating to the department of motor vehicles; regulation of property carriers. Reported from the committee on transportation.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Virginia beach, Mr. Villanueva.
Ron Villanueva
Senate bill 1364 is similar to my bill. This past session we talked about new efficiencies on the tnc. The provisions maintains new insurance requirements and new classification category is for personal transportation network carriers. This bill came out of a good compromise and I move that the bill pass.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1417 a bill to amend and reenact sections of the code relating to Virginia aviation board; commercial air service plan and use of funds. Reported from the committee on transportation.
Ron Villanueva
The gentleman from Virginia beach, Mr. Villanueva.
Ron Villanueva
Mr. Speaker, Senate bill 1417 requires that the Virginia aviation board to develop and review every five years a commercial air service plan for commercial air service airports in the commonwealth. Pier to allocation of the founds from the commonwealth airport fund and requires that the board report to the governor and general assemmial annually. I move that the bill pass.
[Unknown]
Continuing with the block. Senate bill 1462. A bill to amend and reenact a section of the code relating to financial exploitation of adults. Reported from the committee of health and welfare with a substitute.
Ron Villanueva
Can this go bye temporarily? We are trying to keep it synched up with a House bill.
[Unknown]
Turning to Page 6. Continuing with Senate bill third reading uncontested block. Senate bill 1497. A bill to amend and reenact a section of the code relating to manufactured homes definition. Reported from the committee on transportation.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Virginia beach, Mr. Villanueva.
Ron Villanueva
Mr. Speaker and ladies and bill clarifies that recreational gentlemen of the House, this vehicles are vehicles and not homes and provides definitions on how they are taxed. This bill passed unanimously in the Senate and in the transportation committee. I would move that the bill pass.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1532, a bill to amend and reenact relating to motor vehicle license fees; exemption of antique vehicles.
Ron Villanueva
It is a motor vehicle license the as antique vehicle from imposition of local licenses. It pass the the transportation committee yew nan mustily and I move that the bill pass.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1577 a bill to amend and reenact relating to alternative onsite sewage systems sampling. Reported from the committee with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Caroline, Mr. Orrock.
Bobby Orrock
Senate bill 1577 is now a section bill directed the department to look at certain issues as it relates to the sampling of small on-site alternative septic systems. I move the pass and of the bill and the adoption of the committee substitute.
Bill Howell
The question is on the committee substitute. As many as favor that motion sas ed no. The substitute is agreed to.
Bobby Orrock
Mr. Speaker. Returning to Page 5. Page 5. Senate bill 1462 taken bye temporarily. A bill to amend and reenact related to financial exploitations of adults. Report the from the committee with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from albermarle, Mr. Bell.
[Unknown]
Mr. Speaker, I would ask we have floor amendments and things going on and both sides are trying to keep them together and make sure that the same bill comes out of each body. Is there a motion that I could make that could carry this everducci to the end of the regular calendar?
[Unknown]
I ask that it be moved to the regular calendar and moved to the end of the regular calendar.
Bill Howell
Without objection, Senate bill 1462 to the regular calendar.
Bill Howell
Shall the bills pass? The clerk will close the roll. Ayes 97, nos 0.
[Unknown]
Ayes 97, nos 0. The bills are passed.
[Unknown]
Continuing with today's calendar. Next category of bills are Senate -- is Senate bills on third reading, regular calendar. Page 7. Printed version. Senate bills 995 and 997 both taken bye. Next up, Senate bill 1460, a bill a bill to amend the code of Virginia by adding a section numbered 2.2-4513.1, relating to the investment of public funds act; investment of funds in the Virginia investment pool trust fund and other jointly administered investment pools. Reported from committee on finance.
[Unknown]
Senate bill 1416 used to be a copy of my bill that passed out of the House 93-3. But now a copy of the copfy. So both copies are now the second thing is empowers one of our boards, one of our authorities and views them with that capacity to dictate curriculum. Mr. Speaker, I voted against this. Not to say that we don't need more education than a lot of arenas with our healthcare institutions, but I think those decisions should be made by the educators within those bodies, those who do active research in that arena, sir. I'm not entirely convinced. I went to the website and did not know much about the Virginia health work force authority so I went to determine if they would be the best body to determine the best curriculum and they say the best healthcare careers start in Virginia. Are you interested in healthcare careers. There are more than 80 license the healthcare profixes in the state of Virginia and a list of health professions and education requirements and schools and training and so forth in Virginia. It struck me it is more an effort to try to articulate the availability rather than the body that has the full bread of breadth of schools. I will continue to be a no on this.
[Unknown]
Shall the bill pass?
Bill Howell
The clerk will close the roll.
[Unknown]
Ayes 32, nos 66.
[Unknown]
Ayes 32, nos 66. The bill fails to pass.
[Unknown]
Speaker Senate bill 1462 has been moved previously to go to the resolutions regular.
[Unknown]
I would ask that is the last bill. I would ask it to go bye for the day. This is last action we have.
Bill Howell
Without objection, that bill will go bye for the day.
[Unknown]
Continuing with the calendar. Page 8 of the printed version. Next category. House bills with Senate amendments. First up, House bill 1534 a a bill to amend and reenact two sections of the code relating to public schools; student discipline; long-term suspension. The bill passed February 16 and subsequently passed with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from stanton, Mr. Bell.
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House I would ask that we accept the Senate substitute for House bill 1534. What the proposed Senate substitute will do is amend the long-term suspension to a more proportional period of no more than 60 school days, September in cases of serious crimes that are listed in sections 16.1-260 g. Students could still be suspended for up to 364 days for serious actions. Those actions enumerated in the code. Students who commit violent crimes would not stay in the school building much less in the classroom and they are often expelle or criminally charged with the offenses. Mr. Speaker, I would ask that we accept the substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Powhatan Mr. Ware.
Lee Ware
Speaking to the substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Lee Ware
As much as it papes me to say so, it is a little better than the House version. I remind you of the cogent words of my colleague from Manassas. Think not only of the one student. Think about the 25 others in the classroom that he is supposed to be in and teacher in the classroom. I will give you one example which could be multiplied a myriad of times. A real example from a former superintendent and talked about a student who called in numerous bomb scares and he said the problem that we faced in one classroom was severely disabled children in the school that had the bomb scares called in, they had to be taken out of the classroom, severely disabled students. Their medicine had to be taken out and kept with the proper child. Not only was there the logistical challenge of doing this but the fear that was instilled in these severely disabled children who day after day were take p out of their classroom because of this one student who was disrupting every other child and every other teaching instance in that building. Those kinds of things go on. This is one example that could be multiplay the. I hope we will not adopt this bill in any form.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax, Mr. Alba.
[Unknown]
I hate to jump into stuff I don't know much about but that has never stopped me before. This is a little bit confusing bill. As I understand it, though, I 'm not quite sure what all of the controversy is about. When you was sitting here reading the code and missing the vote for last -- the last bill, it seems to me that if the kid does really bad stuff assure asenumerated he can be expelled for 365. This deals with the kids that don't do the really bad stuff but they do the annoying stuff, okay. Nothing in the bill says that the school has to keep kid who does the annoying staff they can send him to an alternate school. This is what we dealt with last year in courts. And that is teachers and schools who just don't want to deal with the kid. As the gentleman yesterday said the constitution of Virginia says that every student deserves an education. Well, this bill say is if you have a kid who is just a pain or keeps on doing all these things over and over dep, not the really bad stuff but the medium stuff. You have to get them back in class and teach the kid. Category three had testimony on a bill last year that I was working on about schools charging certain kids who have adhd or autism with disorderly conduct and getting them busted and then sent out of their class because it is much easier to bust the kid than it is to teach the kid. The one thing that I have learned a little bit about being a parent and I only have one kid. I used to think I was an expert at education because I went to public school and kindergarten to high school. Cool is you show up they give you work and you ace it and you heave. Now that I have a kid I know that it is not like that for everybody. It is hard for some people to learn. The challenge is to make sure that you have an environment where the kid with learn. My school is awesome. I am so impressed and never understood why I was paying $6,000 a year for real estate taxes in Fairfax until I had a kid in public school. I think in a lot of schools and the testimony we had last year there are some schools in the state who would rather just bust the kid and send them out of the class because he is a pain to to me, when I read this bill educate. Says that when the kid who does the really bad stuff you kick him out. The kid with the medium stuff, you have to teach them. I hope it would be the pleasure to pass.
[Unknown]
I remind the gentleman from Fairfax where I grew up a kid is a baby goat. I have two children in the public schools. I don't have a kid in the public school, Mr. Speaker. In all seriousness, the gentleman in Chesapeake who was an elect the member of the school board stated yesterday I thoughts very important and very clear as to why I think we should reject this is you are going to start incentivizing expulsion rather than suspension. And he gave a great I was hoping he would get up and speak but I don't think his speak button is on. I think you have a great opportunity here to make sure that the kids do get continuing services and continuing ed case through suspension. If we don't allow them to get rid of the disruptive kids they will move for expulsion and then the child will no longer get the services they need. And let me make one more other point that I know has already been made but I think it is very important for us to understand. You have the education association, the superintendent's association, and the school board association. Three groups that certainly do not agree with each other all the time. In fact are at odds all the time. But all three of these groups are the professionals in the area that we are debating for right now. And all three of these groups strongly agree that we should reject this legislation and I hope that we do that.
[Unknown]
Speaking measure.
Bill Howell
The gentlewoman has the floor.
[Unknown]
I would add a! Any building so so what was raised has already been covered by these Senate amendment which again is reflective of the debate that this body has had over the years of when schools need to be informed of any serious criminal type of activity that might have one done by a juvenile. I -- and I understand that the education association while (break in audio) giving that flexibility and remain with the schools in making these decisions for this kind of very serious disruptive behavior. It is in the Senate substitute and I urge the body to accept the Senate substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Norfolk, Mr. Lindsey.
Joe Lindsey
Speaking to the measure.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Joe Lindsey
There are a lot of well-meaning people all over the board on this issue. I will tell you this is not an issue that is simply for the educators. And it is not an issue that is simply for the administrators and they all aren't of one position or of one mind as it relates to this measure. In you looked at the vote tally on yesterday and you look at what was undertaken in the way of the dialogue both yesterday and today it appears that there is great measure and great concern about how we need to address this. Some would say well, you know, the school board would say don't do this for the education association would say don't do that and I heard the point yesterday why are we supplantingour opinion for thosn the front line and I will say to you we do it every day. When something is not working or something requires change or when a change hasn't come quick enough, we have to step in. We have to take note. And we have to make it known this is an issue that has to be addressed. What we are asking here is not in my opinion taking a tool out of the tool box of educators. What we are asking here is not to indiscriminately have a situation in place that in its practice has not been what it is made out to be. This is an opportunity that still keeps schools safe, still allows the bad actors to be removed from the population affecting the rest of the children, but it also makes people -- makes people aware, people who make these decisions aware that your job is to teach and not simply to make the first choice of separation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Salem, Mr .
[Unknown]
Speaking to the billeter bile amendment.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
We had a lot of debates the last couple of years and I am going to vote against this and I want to the put clarity. The gentleman from Fairfax hit on it and I want to give him credit for his bill last year which was the right way to begin getting at this problem. If you remember last year several folks had bills that took away the school's rights to bring criminal charges against kids and long-term suspensions and expulsions and went after the tool box that the schools have in a way that the problem was trying to address. What chairman alba did, any of thish shies that lead to an I .E.P. That then lead to the behavioral problems that caused issues passed what I thought was a smart bill which is to say if a kid gets charged and removed from school and have an I .E.P. That is admissible evidence in the trial in their defense. But gets around some hearsay and best evidence rules and other things. The reason that is the right approach because that was the measured approach at the level to deal with the problem. All of us think if a kid suffers from the type of disability that causes them to have behavior problems if you bring them into the criminal justice system at the very least they ought to understand the issues the child presents with which are contained in the iep. That is the measured way to address the problem. We shouldn't be saying one year after we did that before it has a chance to play through the system let's take away other tools from the teachers and the schools. What I would hope this body does is learn from the lessons of last year. We saw the bills and decide they weren't the right way to go. The right way to go was the chairman from Fairfax approach. See how this plays out and if the schools have the tools this he need and provide the right balance. For that reason I hope we will allow last year's legislation to play its way out and we won't take these tools away. These tools are important for both the child subject to the suspension and the other students. I oppose both the amendments on these bills and the other Senate bills still bending before us that have gone bye.
Bill Howell
Gentleman from Caroline, Mr. Orrock.
Bobby Orrock
Speaking to the amendment.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
Bobby Orrock
The sat silent throughout the debate on all of these bills as they have come forward and as I heard the discussion today maybe I shouldn't based on your counsel of 28 years ago when I started. Maybe I shouldn't have gotten up today because I 'm not sure how much difference it will make. I have been a teacher now for 38 years and I am still teaching in a part-time pass the. Capacity.No teacher sends a stuo the office unless they feel any have to. A teacher doesn't enter into the they are dedicated to children and providing them the educational tools any need to succeed. I can tell you through my 38 years there have been times I have sent little johnny or little susie to the offense. But I have given them ample opportunities to understand their actions are creating such a disruptive climate in my classroom I have to look out for the others. They are in the way of me being able to do my job. At this juncture I turn it over to the administration. They need to be able to look at the student's comprehensive actions. I have never known amp administration unless it is an egregious circumstance that on one act and one referral is going to nail them and lower the boon, when you have the pattern sometimes they need the flexibility. On a more philosophical bent I would say not one of us was elected to run our local schools. We as a statester delegated that authority to our local school boards and their administrations. Who are we to sit here today and tell them y'all aren't doing your job well enough, every jurisdiction in the commonwealth. We are going to tell you, you haven't been doing it right so we will take certain things away but by the way, you still got to run it. Mr. Speaker, if you represent a jurisdiction that you feel there is a problem, and through local political means unreceptive to the community's needs then maybe you should vote for this bill. But Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House, I believe that if you, like me, represent jurisdictions where my school boards have not been abusive of their current powers, my school boards afford every bit of due process available to the students before they go to the extreme measures and Mr. Speaker, I think if you support your local school divisions and what they have been doing you should vote against that Senate amendment.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from stanton, Mr. Bell.
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me be clear. We are not taking away long-term suspension tools. I know this has become an emotional issue for a lot of people. I think it was president john Adams who said facts are stubborn things and they are. The facts are here. The facts are all we are doing is amending long-term suspensions to a more proportional period of no more than 60 days. 60 days is a long time to suspend a child. If that child happens to get two or more of his meals in school, he May be home unsupervised or worst yet, on the streets and who is going to feed him? Mr. Speaker, the code provides now that we have alternative placements for those who misbehave. Earlier the gentleman from Chesapeake was cited, I think they have an alternative program. I think they have a robust one. I know that beach does and Fairfax does. But not everybody does. One of the things that is troubling to me is that this playing field is not level. As a former teacher I have seen incidents where a child with a minor disability commits the same offense as the star quarterback but he goes home for 10 days. And he comes back, and you do a manifestation and if he says something out loud he goes home again for 10 more days. This is a tool, all right. This is a tool that allows schools the path of least resistance to get the children who are hard to teach, hard to educate out of the way. Now I think that is probably why some teachers like it, some administrators like it maybe why the associations like it. These aren't the children that make your programs look good. But they are much more than statistics, too. And if you want to believe the statistics, you know, mark twain said there are three kinds of lies. There are lies. Will are damn lies. And there are statistics. These kids are not statistics. Mr. Speaker, if bothers me that we have -- it bothers me that we have gotten to the point where we are going to defend the education establishment in the face of children who need us much more. All I can tell you is for some of us, we care more about people than we do about institutions. I'm one of those folks. The bo dom line is we can't continue to use access to education as punishment. But that is what we are doing. Think about this. Because we all over here like to call ourselves fiscal conservatives. If you want to talk about costs, think about the long-term cost. Think about the cost to society of these children who fall through the cracks because they are chronically suspended. We those costs. Mr. Speaker, this is a good bill. The bill doesn't take away the school's ability to long-term suspended, it makes the period of time more proportional and strikes a better balance between accountability and our duty to educate and I would ask that we accept the substitute.
Bill Howell
Shall the substitute be agreed to? The clerk will close the roll.
[Unknown]
Ayes 49, nos 49.
[Unknown]
Ayes 49, nos 49. The amendment fails. The substitute fails.
[Unknown]
Continuing with the calendar. Page 8. House bills with Senate amendments. The bill before us is House bill 1854. A bill to amend and reenact various section of the codes relating to lobbyist reporting, the state and local government conflict of interests act, and the general assembly conflicts of interests act; filing of required disclosures; registration of lobbyists; candidate filings; judges; definition of gift; informal advice; civil penalties; technical amendments. The bill has an emergency clause reported from the House and passed the Senate with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Shenandoah, Mr. Gilbert.
Todd Gilbert
The Senate conformed my House bill to their bill and there is still differences we would like to work out and I would ask the House to reject the Senate substitute. Reject the Senate substitute.
Bill Howell
Shall the Senate substitute be agreed to? The clerk will close the roll.
Todd Gilbert
Ayes 0, nos 97.
[Unknown]
Ayes 0, nos 97. The substitute is rejected,.
[Unknown]
Turning to Page 9. House bill 1926. A bill to amend and reenact relating to alcoholic beverage control; definition of municipal golf course; exemption from food sales requirements for mixed beverage restaurant licensees located on the premises of and operated by municipal golf courses. Passed the House February 7. Subsequently passed the Senate with an amendment.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Smith, Mr .
[Unknown]
Ladies and gentlemen of the House, when this magnificent piece of legislation left this body it provided for a mandatory exempt for the town and then when it came back from the vastly inferior body down the Hall provided for only a discretionary exemption. I would ask to reject the Senate amendment.
Bill Howell
The question is shall the Senate amendment be agreed to. The clerk will close the roll.
[Unknown]
Ayes 0, nos 96.
[Unknown]
Ayes 0, nos 96. The Senate amendment is rejected.
[Unknown]
House bill 2024, a a bill to amend and reenact Virginia, relating to condemnation powers and proceedings; notice to owner or tenant. Subsequently passed the that with a substitute.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Culpeper, Mr. Frates.
[Unknown]
Now I will talk about something that I am truly passionate about and that is rejecting Senate stutts. Substitutes.I hope that the bodt the Senate substitute and send it to conference.
Bill Howell
Shall the Senate substitute be agreed to? The clerk will close the roll.
[Unknown]
Ayes, nos 97.
[Unknown]
Ayes 0. Nos 97. The Senate substitute is rejected.
[Unknown]
House bill 2185, a bill to amend and reenact a section of the code relating to alcoholic beverage control; granting of certain mixed beverage licenses. Bassed the House on the 25th of January and subsequently passed the Senate with amendments.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Giles, Mr .
[Unknown]
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This adds originally an exemption to the mixed beverage laws for a country club in Montgomery County and puts in an commission development area in Montgomery County and lonesome pine country club in weiss county. I hope it would be the pleasure of the body to accept the Senate amendments.
Bill Howell
Shall the Senate amendments be agreed to? The clerk will close the roll.
[Unknown]
Ayes 83, nos 14. The resolution is agreed to. 2 immediately upon adjournment as well across the Hall. Both conference and labor and general laws immediately upon adjournment. General laws subcommittee four and 2 meetings have both been canceled. Also, today's meeting of ac and r agriculture -- sorry, Chesapeake subcommittee canceled. No ac and r today. After the two full committee meetings mentioned before the next meeting at 4:00, a variety of meetings at that hour. Appropriations, comp and retirement subcommittee at 34:0r appropriations room. Militia police and public safety meeting at 4:00 in the floor west conference room. Privileges and elections campaign subcommittee at 4:00 in the fifth floor west conference room. Transportation subcommittee four, that meeting has been canceled at 4:00. However, the speaker's committee on rules will be meeting today at 4:00. The last piece of business this afternoon the Virginia legislative Black caucus meeting in the sixth floor Senate leadership at 5:00. Looking ahead to tomorrow, Friday, February 17. Finance subcommittee 3:00 in the morning canceled. So no finance sub three. So the first meeting tomorrow will be at 8:00. County cities and towns at 8:00 a.M. Committee on militia, police and public safety meet at as well in House room c across the Hall. A change in time for militia and please. Tourism caucus meeting at 8:30 in the seventh floor west conference room. A change for them. And finally, the committee on privileges and elections they will meet at 9:00 on the ninth floor appropriations room. Change of time for p and e. Finally, Mr. Speaker, the democratic caucus meets at 15:0n House room 2. Republican caucus at 9:30 in House room 1. Completes the announcements.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Fairfax, Mr. Alba.
[Unknown]
Speaker, announcement please.
Bill Howell
The gentleman has the floor.
[Unknown]
Easier to do it on the floor instead of having to talk to everyone individually. I read the procedural resolution. We do not have to have our bills done on Friday. We can do them on Monday. So I am setting you all free except I would appreciate appreciate it if some people would show up to interview judges. There is a subcommittee on judges and you should know if you are on that and we will be interviewing judges tomorrow afternoon. Thank you.
Bill Howell
The gentleman from Colonial Heights, Mr. Cox.
Kirk Cox
Mr. Speaker I move when House adjourn today, they adjourn to reconvene tomorrow at 10:00 a.M.
[Unknown]
The gentleman moves adjourn to reconvene tomorrow at as many as favor that motion say 10:00 a.M. Aye. The motion is agreed to. Mr. Cox.
Kirk Cox
I move the House do now adjourn.
[Unknown]
Mr. Cox moves the House now adjourns. The House stands adjourned until 10:00 a.M. Tomorrow. (the House adjourned at 1:30 p.M.) 1:30 p.M.)